ciuciumisluci Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 is there any chance that a new unit (like helix succesor) will be released on the market at least next year? I want to know if line6 is working on something new. Any plans in the near future? We saw a lot of brands released this year a plenty new stuff: headrush, 2 units, fender tone master pro, hotone has ampero mini and now ampero stage, nux, boss etc. I’m hoping and i wish next year to be line 6’s year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rd2rk Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 Is there a chance of new stuff? Always. A Helix successor in the next year? Eric Klein (aka Digital Igloo - Chief Product Design Architect at Yamaha Guitar Group, Inc. / Line 6 / Ampeg) says no. For those who don't believe him, he has an ongoing bet over on TGP - losers donate to charity. Are they working on it (and/or something else big)? Yes, per DI. Is there any way you're going to find out more about L6's future plans than I've just revealed? No. That's not how they roll. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DunedinDragon Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 From the perspective of being an industry observer I'm not sure there's really a huge compelling reason for Line 6 to make a move quite yet to a more expensive premium unit, but it's definitely getting closer. The trend in the industry has been toward smaller units rather than the larger units with more capabilities. The AXE-FX 3 doesn't appear to have been a huge game changer and although there are indications that some innovations such as the QuadSHARC chip might be the next step in processing power, that's going to take some R&D time and experimentation to understand how to best work with it and employ it's features effectively in a modeler application. When I look at what users are asking for in general it's still smaller footprint units, but with more computational power, yet the features they most clamor for tend to be more superficial presentation and usage things like the user interface or better integration capabilities which has little to do with actual extended modeling capabilities that can still maintain low latency times and is durable enough to be road worthy. Those are the things that would make it worth everyone's time to invest in a new platform. But I'm not convinced the industry is there yet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datacommando Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 On 10/16/2023 at 9:53 PM, ciuciumisluci said: is there any chance that a new unit (like helix succesor) will be released on the market at least next year? I want to know if line6 is working on something new. Any plans in the near future? We saw a lot of brands released this year a plenty new stuff: headrush, 2 units, fender tone master pro, hotone has ampero mini and now ampero stage, nux, boss etc. I’m hoping and i wish next year to be line 6’s year. Don’t hold your breath waiting for that to happen! As noted by @rd2rk in the post above, Digital Igloo has a $500 bet on this, over on TGP, and he is the man who would know. Far too much still in progress for this version of Helix products. Judging from the threads over on TGP, users are waiting for the version 3.7 Firmware to drop, then v.4.0 should follow on from that. Plus if there was anything more in the pipeline, they won’t tell anyone here, or anywhere else, until it’s ready to launch. Then you will know for sure. Speculation is just speculation, and totally pointless, because Line 6 sure as hell are not going to reveal any potential new device to their competitors. I bought my Helix floor back in 2015 for what it could do then, and Line 6 still keeps adding to it. You could waste your life waiting for the next big thing coming down the road. Hope this helps/makes sense. Check this thread from 2019 asking the same question as you - 7 pages of fun and games! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brue58ski Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 So you're saying there's a chance?....... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisinon2 Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 On 10/16/2023 at 4:53 PM, ciuciumisluci said: is there any chance that a new unit (like helix succesor) will be released on the market at least next year? I want to know if line6 is working on something new. Any plans in the near future? We saw a lot of brands released this year a plenty new stuff: headrush, 2 units, fender tone master pro, hotone has ampero mini and now ampero stage, nux, boss etc. I’m hoping and i wish next year to be line 6’s year. The only people who actually know the answer to your question ain't talking... they never do. L6 never announces anything until it's release is imminent. That's just the way they operate. You'll find out the same way the rest of us will...when you read the press release. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codamedia Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 On 10/16/2023 at 3:53 PM, ciuciumisluci said: We saw a lot of brands released this year a plenty new stuff: headrush, 2 units, fender tone master pro, hotone has ampero mini and now ampero stage, nux, boss etc. I’m hoping and i wish next year to be line 6’s year Do you know what you want? Have you made a check list of the features you need, and the features you would like - then compared them to see what's missing in the Helix? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waymda Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 On 10/18/2023 at 1:07 AM, codamedia said: Do you know what you want? Morerer, biggerer, fastererer, newerer, braggierer, soonerer! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noob_Line6 Posted October 24, 2023 Share Posted October 24, 2023 I'll start by saying that I bought the Helix just a couple of weeks ago and absolutely love it. That being said, I did some research ahead of time and heavily factored in the age of the product before purchasing it. In the end, I just couldn't wait YEARS on assumption when the next Helix would be released. At best/worse case scenario, I think Line 6 will release a new version by 2025 (10 yr mark seems to be reasonable). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brue58ski Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 I've been with Line 6 since the Pod XT. I've had the Vetta (still do) and every iteration of the floor units including the Bass Pod XT. The Helix is where I always hoped modeling would go. It can probabaly be improved, as it has been already with the new cabs, but I will be hard pressed to purchase a new unit. Especially if it's the same price or more, than the Helix. I still am using my HD500X as a backup so I may use that to talk myself into getting the latest, greatest when it comes out. But I'm in guitar heaven right now. My main gripe is fixing the bugs seems to be less of a priority than adding the next newest, latest, bestest amp, cab,effect. ability, etc. I would love a "Bug Fix" update. Then I would truly be happy.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bfpvlan Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 It would be nice if Line 6 had a Helix Software upgrade to run in the Firehawk 1500. I would really like a Helix type of AMP like the Firehawk 1500. Or the ability to load the Helix on the Amp itself. They should allow an upgrade path for those that don't like changing out hardware. Another Idea is to maybe have options on the editing tools that you use, for example it would be good to have the easy Firehawk editing tool, really simple and works on the phone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vadymo Posted December 25, 2023 Share Posted December 25, 2023 I’d really love to see a touch display support in Helix products. I keep thinking about it all the time whenever I tweak presets on the go. Also the ability to wirelessly connect to Helix via app on a phone or a tablet and edit presets there would be really useful for me. Also I’m looking into a rack solution, and while current helix rack is a great item in a nutshell, I’d rather wait for a new installment in the series at this point of time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rd2rk Posted December 27, 2023 Share Posted December 27, 2023 On 12/25/2023 at 2:48 PM, vadymo said: I’d really love to see a touch display support in Helix products. Go to Ideascale: https://line6.ideascale.com/c/ SEARCH for variations on "touchscreen". VOTE for all of them! On 12/25/2023 at 2:48 PM, vadymo said: Also the ability to wirelessly connect to Helix via app on a phone or a tablet and edit presets there would be really useful for me. While you're at Ideascale, SEARCH for variations on "wireless". VOTE for all of them! On 12/25/2023 at 2:48 PM, vadymo said: Also I’m looking into a rack solution, and while current helix rack is a great item in a nutshell, I’d rather wait for a new installment in the series at this point of time. If you read the rest of this thread, you SHOULD understand that nobody will know when "Helix 2" or whatever they decide to call it is coming (or IF it's coming) until shortly before its release. While you roll the dice, I'll be enjoying my Helix and not worrying about the (as always) unpredictable future. ;-) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datacommando Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 On 12/25/2023 at 9:48 PM, vadymo said: I’d rather wait for a new installment in the series at this point of time. Don’t hold your breath during the wait! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisinon2 Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 On 12/25/2023 at 4:48 PM, vadymo said: I’d rather wait for a new installment in the series at this point of time. Could be two weeks, could be years away... the only ones who know, ain't talking. But the smart money says it's still a ways off, so tuck in, as it's likely to be a while. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PierM Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 As a L6 product user/owner since their "day one", imho next flagship wont be a modeler at all, but something completely different and unexpected. I dont see them anytime soon scratching the barrel of the oversaturated modeling market. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisinon2 Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 On 12/28/2023 at 9:43 AM, PierM said: As a L6 product user/owner since their "day one", imho next flagship wont be a modeler at all, but something completely different and unexpected. I dont see them anytime soon scratching the barrel of the oversaturated modeling market. It's anybody's guess of course... but in my experience, companies that wake up one day with a bug up their a$$ to "reinvent themselves", tend to regret it. Now where'd I put that bottle of New Coke? Lol... They either go back to doing what they do best, or they end up in Chapter 11. Being one of the pioneers of amp modeling, I can't see them abandoning the market completely in pursuit of some untested gamble as their new "flagship" device. I doubt Yamaha would be on board with that sort of financial Russian roulette, either... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PierM Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 On 12/28/2023 at 9:10 PM, cruisinon2 said: It's anybody's guess of course... but in my experience, companies that wake up one day with a bug up their a$$ to "reinvent themselves", tend to regret it. Now where'd I put that bottle of New Coke? Lol... They either go back to doing what they do best, or they end up in Chapter 11. Being one of the pioneers of amp modeling, I can't see them abandoning the market completely in pursuit of some untested gamble as their new "flagship" device. I doubt Yamaha would be on board with that sort of financial Russian roulette, either... Yeah, not saying I see them releasing a flying horse, but something more "multimodal" oriented, behyond the black box with a screen, buttons and a pedal archetype. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamoce Posted April 7 Share Posted April 7 They have a history of innovation and regularly updating their product line to stay competitive in the market. However, specific details about upcoming products or plans are typically kept confidential until official announcements are made. Get exclusive discounts on SolidWorks 2024 Premium at ProCADIS.com. Companies often aim to surprise their customers with new releases, and Line 6 is no exception. They tend to reveal new products at industry events or through press releases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBunn Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 Would love to see a rack unit that is less than 3U. 1U if possible. Also, to have the same amount of power in all units. Example: to have the same amount of DSP power in the HX Stomp as the Helix Rack. Tech like Apple Silicon has proven that a lot of space is no longer required for enormous DSP, nor is heat an issue. In 2024 we should be able to run pitch FX and multiple amps with spatial FX across all units without an enormous cost. Tech is there, and has been at this level for a few years now. At the end of the day, I am very happy with My Stomp and Native. If Line6 never develops anything new and never delivers on any of these "dreams", I'll happily stick with what I have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DunedinDragon Posted August 24 Share Posted August 24 You're comparing two very different things. Kind of like comparing a CPU to a GPU. DSP chips are designed for real time mathematical transformations and nothing else. Apple silicon is an all purpose Reduced Instruction Set Computing (RISC) chip with no specialization. Believe me if there were an advantage to it someone in the modeling world would have latched onto it to gain some advantage. But in a dedicated hardware unit it would be way out of its league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somebodyelse Posted August 25 Share Posted August 25 On 8/24/2024 at 8:43 PM, DunedinDragon said: You're comparing two very different things. Kind of like comparing a CPU to a GPU. DSP chips are designed for real time mathematical transformations and nothing else. Apple silicon is an all purpose Reduced Instruction Set Computing (RISC) chip with no specialization. Believe me if there were an advantage to it someone in the modeling world would have latched onto it to gain some advantage. But in a dedicated hardware unit it would be way out of its league. ...plus, it isn't good business sense making your cheapest product to the same spec as the most expensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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