Request: ability to remove AMP/CAB in favor for more effects?

[BarkingSpiders]

Hi all,

 

I've problems getting the AMP/PREAMP and CABs to work nicely with physical amps when I play somewhere. The sounds just doesn't sound right and I'm not sure if the 4 cable method is doing a much better job. Also I find it too cumbersome to setup; I want to plug my Pod Go in an amp and be done with it.

 

So I'm basically only using the effects. However for some reason the CAB/AMP always need to be in the signal chain, even when I switch them off. 

 

Would it be possible to remove them so the freed up CPU cycles could be used for an extra effect?

[silverhead]

Sounds like you actually don’t want an amp/cab modeler at all. Have you considered using an FX-only modeler, such as the HX FX? That is designed for exactly what you say you want - plug it into an amp and be done with it. With the HX FX you can have up to 6 FX.blocks in a preset rather than the POD Go’s 4. And all 6 blocks are ‘Flex’ (to use POD Go terminology). No restrictions on block type or placement and no imposed blocks.

[BarkingSpiders]

On 12/29/2023 at 3:07 PM, silverhead said:

Sounds like you actually don’t want an amp/cab modeler at all. Have you considered using an FX-only modeler, such as the HX FX? That is designed for exactly what you say you want - plug it into an amp and be done with it. With the HX FX you can have up to 6 FX.blocks in a preset rather than the POD Go’s 4. And all 6 blocks are ‘Flex’ (to use POD Go terminology). No restrictions on block type or placement and no imposed blocks.

 

Actually I do sometimes like the cabs/amps when plugging the pod go into my laptop and recording it. But in live situations, those things just get in the way imo. Also I like the wireless feature. So I'm kinda fond of my Pod Go, it would only be even better if I'm able to replace the amps with an effect ;)

 

[silverhead]

The official way to bring such feature requests to the attention of Line 6 developers is through the Ideascale platform.

http://line6.ideascale.com/

[voxman55]

On 12/29/2023 at 12:28 PM, BarkingSpiders said:

Hi all,

 

I've problems getting the AMP/PREAMP and CABs to work nicely with physical amps when I play somewhere. The sounds just doesn't sound right and I'm not sure if the 4 cable method is doing a much better job. Also I find it too cumbersome to setup; I want to plug my Pod Go in an amp and be done with it.

 

So I'm basically only using the effects. However for some reason the CAB/AMP always need to be in the signal chain, even when I switch them off. 

 

Would it be possible to remove them so the freed up CPU cycles could be used for an extra effect?

 

Yes. there are certain modified patches available where the JSON script file has been modified.

1. This is NOT a firmware 'hack' - it's simply an alteration to a single patch file.
2. There are various versions of these freely available and Line 6 is fully aware of these (in fact they were actually surprised folk didn't figure this out sooner!).
3. These modified patch files will give you more 'user' blocks but at the sacrifice of something eg the fx loop or a wah pedal. This could even include sacrificing amp and cab blocks.
4. However they do NOT increase Pod Go's processing power, but will release some of the DSP allowance previously 'reserved' for the removed item. JSON modified files that remove volume, wah or EQ won't save much though because these use very little DSP to run them. That's why you can only change the model of volume, wah or EQ in these blocks and can't eg put a reverb or distortion in them - it would be like trying to fit a football into the space set aside for a tennis ball!
5. Some of these JSON modified files are more 'stable' than others. By less stable, these can't harm your Pod Go and they can't affect any other patch file. But for example you might find a file offering 7 user blocks with amp/cab blocks deleted might be fine with 6 blocks but give odd behaviour eg it won't let you use the 7th block, or if you put a looper in it the looper functions might not work properly.

[BarkingSpiders]

 

On 12/30/2023 at 2:42 AM, voxman55 said:

 

Yes. there are certain modified patches available where the JSON script file has been modified.

1. This is NOT a firmware 'hack' - it's simply an alteration to a single patch file.
2. There are various versions of these freely available and Line 6 is fully aware of these (in fact they were actually surprised folk didn't figure this out sooner!).
3. These modified patch files will give you more 'user' blocks but at the sacrifice of something eg the fx loop or a wah pedal. This could even include sacrificing amp and cab blocks.
4. However they do NOT increase Pod Go's processing power, but will release some of the DSP allowance previously 'reserved' for the removed item. JSON modified files that remove volume, wah or EQ won't save much though because these use very little DSP to run them. That's why you can only change the model of volume, wah or EQ in these blocks and can't eg put a reverb or distortion in them - it would be like trying to fit a football into the space set aside for a tennis ball!
5. Some of these JSON modified files are more 'stable' than others. By less stable, these can't harm your Pod Go and they can't affect any other patch file. But for example you might find a file offering 7 user blocks with amp/cab blocks deleted might be fine with 6 blocks but give odd behaviour eg it won't let you use the 7th block, or if you put a looper in it the looper functions might not work properly.

 

[BarkingSpiders]

Thanks a lot for this! I fiddled around with the JSON file and created a simple empty patch with 9(!) empty effect blocks. I axed the Wah Pedal, FX Loop, EQ, AMP, and Cabinet. I kept the volume control as 10th block, although that one can be axed too.

 

For anyone that don't need these things, enjoy the extra blocks ;) Please find it attached

 

EDIT:

 

So far I managed to let 8 blocks work together (6 effects and a looper + the volume pedal), the remaining 2 blocks seem to be bypassed. It's a DSP processing limit. So picking the another combination of blocks might give you an extra block.

 

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