tankaviator

No, 'expected' isn't an overloaded term in this case. We use it all the time in the software industry. It just means that these modes were intentionally created like this (for whatever reason) as opposed to being a side effect or byproduct of some other decisions or a bug in the firmware. I can try full volume mode with the master turned down. Is the direct out signal line level or does it vary with the master volume? When I play at home I use headphones from my mixer (which is connected via the XLR cable) which is why I am curious.

Ok, so to try to bring this back a bit.... • Low Volume Mode On, Amp in Standby = Direct Out signal consists of the “Full†(preamp + power amp) Amp Model with no analog amp. • Low Volume Mode Off, Amp On (not in Standby) = Direct Out signal consists of the “Preamp†Amp Model with the analog amp. • Low Volume Mode On, Amp On (not in Standby)= Direct Out signal consists of the “Full†Amp Model and the analog amp. This *seems* to indicate that LVM on, STDBY using the XLR out should provide a signal with the effects loop applied to it. According to iknowathingortwo's post above (which mirrors my own experience) the only time the effects loop is included in the XLR out is when the amp is fully on... Low Volume mode OFF: Amp On (not in standby): FX Loop heard on direct out Amp Off (in standby): Nothing Low Volume Mode ON: Amp On (not in standby): FX Loop NOT present on direct out Amp Off (in standby); FX Loop NOT present on direct out So the only time it works is when the amp is fully on. So, is this the expected behavior or not? I don't necessarily care how the master volume is wired up as long as it controls the overall volume in an intuitive manner. But the effects loop being bypassed is really bad. Of course the effects loop on a POD is applied before the XLR out and doesn't suffer the same fate as the 1/4" connectors (assuming an L6Link cable is used). Is this just a way to push people towards getting a POD? Honestly I'm starting to think I should sell my DT 25 and go looking for a decent head with nice clean and eye watering distortion channels (oh I would love to get a Nitrox).

What would be the point of tapping before the effects loop? It either means that the XLR out is useless (when using the effects loop), or the effects loop is useless (when sending the signal to FOH). I don't really understand what the usefulness is then?

I'm having to send my HD 500 into the shop (broken USB port) and I am hooking up a few of my stand alone pedals to my DT-25. I noticed that the effects loop sounds fine coming out of the speaker, but the XLR out seems to be tapped before the effects loop, so isn't sending the post-processed signal to my mixer. I have checked in both standby mode (LVM) as well as with the power amp on and the behavior is the same. I have seen 1 other mention of this in regards to a DT-50, and it sounds like the newest firmware update changed the behavior of the XLR out to be tapped pre-effects loop. Can anyone verify whether or not the XLR out should be tapped pre- or post-effects loop? Thanks, Mike