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I put 2 songs in my music website: "All The Time" is the song on top, and "Play a Part 2" is the next song down. One song uses Roland COSM or AdrenaLinn for guitar amp modeling and effects, and the other song uses Helix for all guitar amp modeling and effects. Can you tell which is which? Please tell me how you like the music and how it can be improved. Here is my link: https://www.soundclick.com/artist/default.cfm?bandID=224436

I put 2 songs in my music website: "All The Time" is the song on top, and "Play a Part 2" is the next song down. One song uses Roland COSM or AdrenaLinn for guitar amp modeling and effects, and the other song uses Helix for all guitar amp modeling and effects. Can you tell which is which? Please tell me how you like the music and how it can be improved. Here is my link: https://www.soundclick.com/artist/default.cfm?bandID=224436

No. A "loadbox" takes it's input signal from an amplifier's "SPEAKER OUT", splits it, attenuates it (or not) and passes that SPEAKER LEVEL signal to a speaker cab The other part of the split is converted to LINE LEVEL, an IR is applied (or not) and that signal can then be sent to a FOH Mixer or Audio Interface for processing in a DAW. If you were to send a SPEAKER LEVEL signal to your Stomp, all of the magic smoke would escape. There could be shrapnel. Before I suggest a solution, let me be sure that I understand what you want to do. You want to be able to have your OD Pedal in front of the Stomp, feeding a Stomp amp/preamp and/or FX, out through an FX Loop which has external pedals in it (Chorus > Reverb > Delay > Looper), returning to the Stomp for final processing before being sent to the Katana FX Loop Return (Power Amp input) via the Stomp's L/Mono Output. You would like to insert the Orange Preamp before the Stomp's amp/preamp(with bypass switch when using the Orange?)/FX/FX Loop, but don't require the OD pedal to feed the Orange. Your guitar would be plugged into EITHER the Stomp or the Orange. You would NOT be using the Katana's preamp or FX. Does that sound right?

FRFR cabs are not really true FRFR. They're all a little different. That's why there are comparison articles and videos about choosing the right FRFR. It comes as no surprise to me that a different cab will sound different with the same patch.

Update: It appears from a recent post on one of the FB pages that this is a hardware issue. "...I'm sorry friends, but the problem is confirmed hardware and here in Italy there are already those who have had the modification under warranty at the authorized Line6 service" I purchased my Pod Go from Yamaha Music London in June 2020 so it is still within its 2 yrs warranty. I've today written to them and as Yamaha own Line 6 I have requested an explanation as to why Line 6 has not openly come out to its customers on this, and have requested that my Pod Go be 'repaired/upgraded' by Line 6. I'll keep you all posted.

I have seen Line 6 gear and about every other digital brand experience drop outs on generator gigs & iify venues where the performer chose not to use an AVR on their input power..power drops below 90 volts you can get resets...If I had a dollar everytime I saw this with a support act and let them plug into my avr, I would have a new American P bass...Another thing an AVR does is isolates your power in the same way a DI isolates your signal...transformers always break ground loops since they don't pass thru a tranny. If you are not using a direct box, I suggest considering it....Line 6 quasi-balanced...this situation reads like iffy power and poor power & signal isolation, but then I don't really have enough information to make an informed guess on this. Best of luck to you.

Make sure you are not allowing any signal to bypass the Helix loop (send/return)... which would result in some signal bypassing the amps front end, therefore giving a "cleaner" signal. It is critical to match the I/O level of each connection between the amp and the Helix. When they are not matched, unpredictable results may occur. Helix SEND to Amp Input... the Helix send should be instrument level Amp SEND to Helix Return... the Helix return should be LINE level Helix Output to Amp Return... the Helix Output should be set to LINE level, and the big volume should be FULL or disconnected from the 1/4" outs. (assuming you are using the 1/4" outs). NOTE: The Amps manual and some online discussions suggest your amp uses a LINE LEVEL loop, which is why I am making the suggestions I am. IF the AMP uses instrument level loop, change step 2 & 3 to "instrument level".

Got it to load then?

Yo appreciate the feedback so far! My setup is current like so : Guitar > OD Pedals > HX Stomp L input > HX Stomp FX loop send L > Chorus > Reverb > Delay > Looper> HX Stomp FX loop return L > HX Stomp out L > Katana Power amp in This way I get to use a preamp on the stomp, retain my existing external pedals, as well as use any in the stomp, and then hear the noise out of my katana which is nothing more than a powered cab right now. Now I've got the Orange I'd like to add it in, but not integrate it fully if that makes sense? Like I don't want a whole massive 7 cable method setup or anything as I don't need that many options. So with that said, I was hoping to keep everything as is, and just run a cable from the Orange FX Send to the HX Stomp Input R so I can use the Orange, have a cab sim on the stomp and then hear the result out of the katana. So it'd be : Guitar > Micro Dark input > Micro Dark FX Send > HX Stomp R input > IR Block (Possibly not needed?) > HX Stomp FX loop & pedals > HX Stomp out L > Katana Power amp in Does this sound like it'd be ok? I think I am just getting myself worried as the Orange has a tube pre, but solid state power section, and didn't know whether I'd be risking blowing up the stomp as I'm basically trying to use it as an IR loadbox aren't i? Although I 100% know NOT to run anything from the 'Speaker out' socket into my stomp. Cheers!

I wanted to try my LT via 4CM into my amp, as a “pedal board” for effects only. I found that when hooked up it made things sound different, particularly in the gain channel of the amp (Bad Cat Hot Cat 15). It was as if there was less gain/distortion in this channel, and the sound/tone was just missing “something”. As soon as I plugged my traditional pedal rig, via 4cm, back into the amplifier, everything was there once again in terms of sound. I experimented with line level output vs instrument level output in Global settings, the overall volume output (via the big physical knob), as well as the level of the Send and Return blocks within the patch. Is there another parameter that I’m overlooking here? The best way to describe what it’s doing to my sound is that it’s giving me less distortion/gain…as if I’ve rolled my guitar’s volume knob from 10 down to 6, yet there's no volume drop. It’s almost like it’s made my amp’s gain channel more “polite”. My traditional rig does not do this, all the tonal goodness is there, and it is hooked up via 4CM as well. The LT, not so much.

Re the video: Helix has a variable input impedance selector. Pod Go has a fixed impedance of 1M Ohm. If he had Helix set to 'Auto' I'd be interested in a comparison using the other impedance setting in Helix. For those less familiar, placing a buffered unit in front of Pod Go will deliver the same highs. A buffered unit might be eg any Boss stomp pedal - the pedal has to be powered but not stomped 'on' to benefit from the buffer. The other buffered device could be something like the Line 6 G10 Relay wireless system that is a buffered device. I use the G10 Relay, so do not have this issue, and is why similarly the Pod Go Wireless doesn't have this issue ie it's an issue ONLY when using cables. However, it is also very much down to the make, length & type of guitar cable you are using because different cables have different impedance, that can make a big difference to your tone. I tested my Pod Go with a good quality Vox coiled cable and my Piranha cables and the tonal difference with both as compared to via the G10T or placing my Boss CS3 pedal in front of Pod Go, was negligible and nothing like the variation in this video, which is quite extreme. Now, whilst there has been a lot of posts on forums/boards/youtube vids on this issue, you need to appreciate that putting a buffered unit in front of ANY MFX unit will brighten tone and not until you hear the difference do you think anything is 'wrong'. now, although Helix offers an impedance selector, a 1M Ohm input impedance is standard in mid-range MFX. Even the brand new Boss GX100 is 1M Ohm, whereas it's big brother the GT1000 is 2M Ohm. So this is not a 'fault' with Pod Go, but an additional option in Helix that is 3 x the price. I have a Vox Tonelab SE, LE and ST - and the same tone brightening occurs when using a buffered device in front of these. I also have a BBE Sonic Stomp Maximiser, and this makes tone sound brighter/clearer too. The same issue applies when using a guitar amp if you plug direct into an amp and then compare with a buffered device in front of it. So, whilst there is a tonal difference, it's because of the more sophisticated impedance options in Helix, rather than an issue with Pod Go Impedance. And here's a further thought. Many of the more expensive wireless devices allow you to change the settings to replicate guitar cable impedance. Why? Because a lot of players don't like the brighter tone, and want it to sound similar to their cabled sound. This whole thing has just got a bit out of proportion. But whilst it's possible Line 6 might be able to do something in v1.40 firmware, I suspect only a physical mod would 'solve' the issue for those seriously troubled by it - but you never know. However, having said all this I still would have hoped that Line 6 would have said something to at least confirm Pod Go impedance definitely is 1M Ohm. The fact they haven't even done so does potentially raise a big question mark and could give some credence to (reportedly) 'techs' who say they have tested Pod Go and found the input impedance to be only a third to a half of 1M Ohm. If that is proved to be the case then it might suggest Line 6 may have cut corners to save a few pennies. The problem is that if Line 6 refuses to comment, customers and potential customers are left to speculate, and that's not a good thing. So Line 6, if you are looking in - please confirm what the Pod Go input impedance is.

My impression from recent years is that FOH engineers (or rather, cough, cough, "engineers") are mixing drum sets waaay too LOUD these days. It's beyond annoying. Especially with drummers who can't play softly. (I play with one such specimen in a pop band. He used to play in heavy metal bands in the 1980s and early 1990s. Other than that, he's a nice guy though, being fully aware of his dynamic limitations. :) Then, if they use FOH speakers with built-in protection limiter, the "tremolo effect" could likely be the logical consequence. Some "engineers" want to push the subbass on kick drum. If they overdo it, the speakers may receive LOUD signal in a humanly barely audible low range, yet still loud enough for the limiter to kick in. (Disclosure: In the 1990s I used to partially work as a club FOH engineer for about 6 years, so I have some 1st hand experience here.)

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I'm not "kracking" anything. I'm making an IR of an IR that I OWN. Do you use IRs of equipment that you DO NOT OWN? Curious. Wait, that's all that the Helix does. Carry on.

For anyone experiencing this problem: 1. Get the patch to work in Helix plugin on a computer 2. Remove everything from the patch except the IR and set all the gains to unity. 3. Generate a sine wav sweep using Voxengo deconvolver 4. Run the sine wav through the plugin and export/render the resulting audio 5. Load that audio file into Voxengo deconvolver and also the sine sweep and generate your IR that has no failing protection, so that you can actually ALWAYS use your patch Thanks for your time, Pissed

I had a quick look at your history and you don’t seem to have much success using this stuff. You didn’t say what piece of hardware was having the problem loading the IR. I know you have a Helix floor because you had issues trying to figure out how to put it into 10 foot switch mode when using Command Centre. From the Helix 3.0 Owner’s Manual - Rev F - English - Page 38 ”IR File Reference Once an IR block is configured to utilize an IR index slot that includes an imported IR (.wav or .hir) file, and the preset then saved, the preset creates a “reference signature” to the imported IR from its file name. Likewise, if you save your IR block as a Favorite (see "Adding a Block to Favorites" on page 17) or set the IR block’s current settings as the User Model Defaults (see "Saving a Model’s User Default Settings" on page 18), the IR bock also creates a reference to the specific IR file within your IR library. Therefore, if you re-order IRs within the IR library list, your preset (or IR Favorite or User Model Default block) will still intelligently reference the originally associated IR file, even if it now resides in a different IR Library index location. This also makes it easy to share your presets with friends since they can then insert the same IR file in any slot within their Helix IR library, and the preset will find it. Please also refer to the HX Edit Pilot’s Guide for additional info regarding the use of IRs.” link: https://line6.com/data/6/0a020a3f041b611d61cac763b/application/pdf/Helix 3.0 Owner's Manual - Rev F - English .pdf And here is the Pilot’s Guide https://line6.com/data/6/0a020a3f1049f61fd3077f0eca/application/pdf/HX Edit 3.15 Pilot's Guide - English .pdf Have fun trying to “krack” the protection - I really don’t think you should have mentioned that in here. Hope this helps/makes sense.

The error message comes from HX edit. The IR doesn't load. I purchased it in the store, as I mentioned. This happened at a gig when I needed a patch. On the unit, you get no message, just no IR either. Never, ever again. I can probably figure out how to deconvolve it on a computer, effectively removing the protection that Line6 failed at, then load that unprotected IR. It's soooo sad that I have to go to these lengths to get a reliable patch. Don't bother responding. This is what I will do.

Please provide more details. - What exactly do you mean by this: “The IR appears to be present, but it doesn't load.” Where does it appear? How are you attempting to load it? - Where did you purchase the preset? - Was the IR file included in the purchase? If a purchased preset references an IR then the preset seller should include the (properly licensed) IR file.

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Error message: The IR(s) associated with the following blocks in this preset could not be found in the Impulse Library. I'm logged into my account. The IR appears to be present, but it doesn't load. The fact that this can happen for one second means I will NEVER, EVER buy a preset again. P*ssed as H*ll.

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You know what would be cool? If you could copy snapshots between presets. It wouldn't be too difficult to figure out what blocks need to be copied along with them. There also could be functionality to remove unused blocks. That way you can for example dial in your solo sound on one preset/snapshot, and then you can copy/paste that snapshot into another preset/snapshot. Not a show-stopper, but could be super convenient to build new presets in minutes, as opposed to recreating the whole thing from scratch or making a copy of the existing preset and making tweaks (which is what I do). There also seems to be an issue when you copy a block from an existing preset and paste it into a new one--the bypass and [parameters] don't work as expected. I typically have to re-add the block manually in these situations. https://line6.ideascale.com/c/idea/1044711

It would help me a lot if you could copy and paste a whole path.