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Welcome to the Line 6 forums!
Hello, Line 6ers. We are pleased to announce the latest incarnation of our community support forums. Feel free to explore and post threads. Our forums are here so that our community members will continue to help one another, partake in respectful, thought-provoking debates and conversations, and forge great relationships. Line 6 has appointed the Line 6 Experts to moderate the forums, but occasionally, Line 6 staff will post to certain threads. As these are community support forums, please remember that your post is not a direct message to Line 6. If you need to contact our technical staff, please do so at www.Line6.com/support. Also, please submit your product ideas at www.line6.ideascale.com so the community can vote up the best ideas.
For those who've used our previous forum system, please note that the old forums are archived in a read-only state at http://line6.com/supportarchivenew/ There's still a lot of useful information there. We'd like to remind everyone that by using our forums, you are agreeing to our Terms of Use, found at http://line6.com/termsofuse.html. Please remember to treat everyone with respect, and expect the same from your fellow community members. We're looking forward to your continued contributions to our community. Line 6 Customer Support -
What tones do you want Line 6 to build?
Folks, Here is where to go to let Line 6 know what tones you are interested in seeing built: http://line6.ideascale.com/a/ideafactory.do?mode=top&discussionFilter=byids&discussionID=47764. We will use your feedback when creating how-to videos and setting presets on our products. One tone per submission so others can vote on it, please. We encourage you all to submit as many tones as you want, but it doesn't work when you lump them all into one submission. Thanks! Line 6 Customer Support -
Templates and tones from L6 Tone Made Easy classes
Tone Made Easy is a series of classes presented by Line 6 that teaches the fundamentals of how to create great guitar tone using basic techniques and equipment knowledge. For content that you can reference to learn how to become a better sounding guitar player, including the templates that re-create some of your favorite guitarist's tones, go to http://line6.com/tone-templates/. To learn more about Tone Made Easy and other events, go to http://line6.com/events/. -
"Why is Line 6 not responding???" 10/29/2015
Friends of Line 6, We notice that many times, customers ask on our forums "Why is Line 6 not responding???" Please understand that our forums exist so that our community members can help one another and talk to each other. Our very knowledgeable Line 6 Experts monitor and moderate our forums, and have direct lines to Line 6 staff to report trouble or get useful information, but they are not paid employees of Line 6. Line 6 staff is generally aware of the most sensitive and/or active forum threads, and occasionally will post to certain threads. However, our forum is not the appropriate place to ask Line 6 for a response to your questions. Additionally, sending a private message to a Line 6 staff member does not guarantee a response. Remember, if you need to contact our technical staff, we welcome you to do so at www.Line6.com/support. Here you can either create a support ticket or call our US or EU staffs. Also, "Why is Line 6 not responding???" can mean "Why is Line 6 not fixing {insert issue}???" Again, Line 6 staff is generally aware of the most sensitive and/or active forum threads and issues. Please know that once we are aware of a given issue, we have to capture enough data to reproduce and understand the issue, create the resolution for the problem, test it, and make sure that nothing else is broken in the process. Unfortunately, the process takes weeks and sometimes even months, depending on the complexity of the issue, cooperation of other companies, and a variety of other factors. We appreciate your patience during those times, and we'll do even better at providing meaningful communications periodically. In the end, we, your fellow musicians, truly want to resolve any such issues as quickly as possible so you can get back to making music with your Line 6 gear. We thank you for your patronage and your understanding. Best Regards, Line 6 -
Warning about downloaded tones, patches and presets 01/11/2016
Please be aware that downloaded tones, patches and presets that were created by other users have the potential to be corrupted and not work correctly on the target device. Firewall/Antivirus/Internet security applications, Internet/video accelerators and proxy servers, among other things, can be causes of trouble with downloaded files. If your device freezes, a rule of thumb is to back up your custom patches, reset the unit to its factory state, ensure the unit does not freeze while in this state, then load your patches one by one, testing after each load to determine which patch is faulty. Otherwise, please contact our Customer Support team at www.Line6.com/support/tickets. Please be prepared to supply your backup file so that we can investigate your case further.
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Could have been a good idea. For my selfmade FRFR monitors, i first tried the Beta12CX. Not bad, especially for the price, but lots of peaks and dips and the active digital crossover is hard to handle cause the woofer beams far below the tweeter can take over. There are some hardware tweaks provided in the net to make the 12CX better (concerning the "horn" of the tweeter with all his steps) but hopefully, Line6 uses a better base in their cab. I ended up using the Faitalpro 12HX230 as coaxial driver and it was still not a cacewalk to get it pretty linear in different listening angles. What i wanna say: Most so called FRFR monitors are not really FRFR compared to good HiFi speakers or studio monitors. That seems to be the price for more dB/watt and higher SPL max.
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i agree that perfect handling of the Helix has to be learned like it has to be learned to get ones personal perfect tone out of all these originals. The difference is: If i plug my guitar in a real amp, i usually get instantly a tone with less fizz than what comes out with the factory presets. Perhaps not a god tone, but with a little bit tweaking on the tone stack, it will be mostly OK to start. Try this with a simple amp+cab in the Helix. To my ears, it's not really the same. and i think that's what many people complain. I know it depends on the chain, but even with a pretty linear speaker without peaks in the upper mids/hights, fizz is there when overdrive/distortion is dialed in. In know that Helix is moddeling not the amp in the room but a miced amp. But really - did you ever mic an amp and have this fizz? OK - if you place the mic directly in the speakers center beam - in this case you have to use filters and equalizers to get a good tone. Perhaps, that's the point. Possible solutions: - the proposed "idiots guide" (i'll buy two :) ) - Different mic angles, not only distance, as i think line 6 is modelling pretty on axis for what reason ever (perhaps cause its tecnically better to cut something wich is to much than boosting something that is to less. If i record a conventional guitar speaker at the center, i get fizz too. - i like rd2rk's idea of a virtual "Fizz killer pedal". Could be a good and intuitive thing to start and should be not too difficult to implement. - accepting that nearly every day someone is complaining 'bout fizz - with a certain reason
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ok, thank you for your replay!!!
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Hey everyone. I currently use my HD500X in my studio for home use. I am going to jam with some friends and they have an extra Marshall Head and Cab there I can plug in so I was hoping I could use my HD500X so I can get the tones I want. I am not a Marshall fan and I don't feel like dragging my EVH, and Cabs over so I was wondering if I can use his Marshall head as a preamp and just run my settings which is amp and cab simulation to get the tone I like ? Is this possible ? What do I need to do in order to get this to work ?
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This! I’ve pre-ordered two of Powercab Pluses (for stereo) and it would be my candidate for your consideration. It’s a piece of the Line 6 platform, and it will integrate with the Helix very well, and fully digital if you consider running it through the Line 6 Link interface. It does offer a nice fallback option with IR and speaker modelling if you end up not liking the FRFR experience.
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Well you may have established a new level of laziness not being able to just scroll through the effects, but oddly enough things like this are in the Pitch/Synth category of effects. You have the simple pitch, dual pitch, and in the pitch legacy effects the Bass Octaver. I find any of the pitch type effects work best for me after the amp and cab, but some put them between the amp and cab. The good news is the Helix is simple enough that you can experiment with the placement to your heart's desire...unless, of course, that's also too much work for you.... ;)
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Potentially dumb question based on pure laziness but what Helix effect should I use as an octaver? I just want to use it with a lead tone to fatten it up. Also how should I set it up and where in the signal chain? Thanks
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No worries, Phil, it was a long video (I added time stamps to try to help with that, lol)! I wasn’t aware of an issue of Ableton mirroring commands; I performed many of the same tests while running MIDI messages via USB into MIDI Monitor without Ableton running (an additional difference is that in my video I was running MIDI from the Helix via a MIDI cable into a M-Audio Midisport then from there into the computer via USB; I did this because sometimes when I run the MIDI into Ableton directly via USB it causes some freaking out issues… perhaps this is the mirroring you were discussing). With the simplified setup I’m still running into the same issues. I created a backup and tried a couple of factory resets with similar results dealing with what I feel are bugs in the system: After booting while holding down footswitches 11 + 12: Still multiple firings of mixed CC data Adding a Program Change resets my CC values to zero Adding a CC toggle to footswitch in stomp mode resets my CC values After performing a factory reset (holding down footswitches 9 + 10): Still multiple firings of mixed CC data Occasional re-firings of PC data for snapshots which have PC set to off in command center Adding a CC toggle to footswitch in stomp mode resets my CC values (one snapshot retained its CC value) and my PC values Not sure what other steps there are for me to try out, any ideas? Thanks again for your time and help! :-)
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midi Using Hd500X as a midi controller for 100W EVH 5150III
fcarey5593 replied to fcarey5593's topic in POD HD
Sounds right to me, seems my issue is correctly programming the midi switch to correspond with the signal being sent to it, i just cant seem to synchronize them together.... -
Well, I'm gonna have to pre-recommend the Line 6 Powercab. Just pre-ordered one. I've been fighting going to FRFR for two years now. This is my first FRFR solution outside of studio monitors. It's the only FRFR cab with a speaker model safety net built in, which might be a good fall back if I don't like FRFR. I do need full range regardless because of my Variax. I like the fact that the IRs and cab modeling is all in the speaker. I've been using my power amp in of my Line 6 Spider Valve amps with no cab model blocks. I shouldn't have to change my presets to go back and forth between rigs. I was already sold on the coaxial speaker Eminence Beta 12 CX concept with Mission Gemini and had decided that would be my solution when I pulled the FRFR trigger. Glad I waited. I think Line 6 just 1up'd it.
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Indeed, different animals. My only purpose in comparing them was to point out that THE FIZZ in the Helix that so many complain about is not a necessary component of amps modeled in the digital realm. For me, it's the sort of thing that tends to disappear in a mix, live or recorded. It's just SO annoying when I'm sitting around noodling by myself, which is mostly what I do these days on guitar. BUT...I just got a call from someone I haven't played with in years, looking for a bass player for some loosey-goosey jamming! I'm excited! I'll get a chance to see how the Helix bass amps sound through my new Headrush 112 in a live setting! OH BOY!!!
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midi Using Hd500X as a midi controller for 100W EVH 5150III
hurghanico replied to fcarey5593's topic in POD HD
based on the equipment you have in your case all the switching should be through MIDI ( apart from physically pressing 1 FS on the POD).. - as soon as you select a certain patch on the POD, the corresponding MIDI program change (based on a table of fixed not programmable values) is always sent out.. - the MIDI switcher receives the above program change and calls the corresponding (pre-programmed by you) preset which will automatically select the right channel of your amp.. --------------------- then, if staying in 1 specific patch and the current channel of your amp you want to switch on/off some of the included FXs you can do it.. but as soon as you need to select a different channel of your amp, you should select the patch (with the desired effects) pre-assigned by you to select (through the MIDI switcher) the wanted channel of your amp.. at the end, if you have programmed all the necessary presets in the midi switcher, and the corresponding POD patches, you need just one FS press on the POD to change both FXs (patches) and amp channels. __________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ All about HD500/X new forum! -
Crazy, this is EXACTLY the problem I ran into last night. As far as I could tell, there was no way to keep Amplifi from sending its internal path, in Parallel, to the speaker outs I wanted to use this thing as an FRFR and run my DAW's VSTs thru from a laptop, but if I want to get guitar signal into the computer from the guitar in on amplifi, I gotta live with that signal also ending up at the speakers In that case its just as easy to use my regular FRFR plus interface. If there's a way around this (and a way to get a line out out of this thing without killing the speakers) I'd love to hear it
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Has anyone ever figured out a good way to get a line out of the Amplifi 150 without it cutting off the internal speaker?
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Can the TT be used as a quality PC audio interface?
pipelineaudio1 replied to amheck's topic in AMPLIFi TT/FX100
I want only the PC sounds. I want the path to go like this: Guitar into Amplifi. Amplifi as DI as possible (would be nice to have the unaffected input like the Line 6 interfaces have as in their ASIO drop down menu) to ASIO input stream ASIO output stream to Amplifi interface return The issue here is that, unlike say the Yamaha THR 10, the original amplifi signal path will still appear at the output in parallel with the interface return, whereas I'd like to only have the interface return appear at the output -
Helix and S-Gear are very different things, even if you focus on only amp and cab models. Helix mostly attempts to emulate existing amplifiers. S-Gear is certainly inspired by the knowledge gained over many years of amp development and tube characteristics, but is more focused on building modern amplifiers in the digital domain. However, if you compare some of the newer Helix models like Litigator and Carteographer, and use similar IRs, you’ll get tones that are more similar between the two. The other difference is who’s listening to and evaluating the models. Mike Scuffham does indeed seem to have unique ears. Ben Adrien is also starting to show his capabilities, and his models in Helix seem to show a lot of promise. I hope to see more of these in the future. Its wonderful to see that these two designers can do, and we are indeed fortunate to be able to enjoy their products.
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The hours spent learning the Helix must be offset with your knowledge of the amps and pedals within the Helix. 60 hours is not a bad amount of time to learn how to work the device, but navigating the Helix is just the beginning! If you don't know how the amps, pedals, mics and speakers that are emulated work you really have just scratched the surface of time required. The Helix is dozens of amps and more than 100 effects. If you rented that much diverse gear from a music store do you think 60 hours would be sufficient time to really figure it out?
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You will see the same in any techy forum. Problem is, a lot of people dont understand the relevent posts that are already included in previous forum threads until a certain point. And this is usually after asking the same old questions. I am very technical in computing having been programming, reverse engineering software sice early 1990's, and IT manager in education setting up and maintaing networks of hundreds of PCs. been playing guitar in a very hobby based setting, using only a small standard fender amp. now been trying to get a handle on the audio stuff after buying an Amplifi75 and it is incredibly complex. most of the advice is experience driven. I guess it comes down to how helpful an individual chooses to be to posters of all the same old questions.
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Jumping on the bandwagon with some of the previous comments in this thread, I made some mods to my workhorse Plexi patch last night. I was already very pleased with the tone, but I think I may have improved it. Ear fatigue was setting in so the jury is still out! I placed a high/low cut EQ block first in the chain and set the low cut to 63 Hz with a +0.7 dB boost to compensate for lost level into the amp block. No high cut in this block. I settled on these values by comparing the tone with the EQ blocked bypassed or not. It’s a subtle difference, but it seems to tame some of the digital flubbiness and result in a smoother sounding overdrive. I was running this same block at the end before with both high and low cuts, so I replaced that with a parametric EQ block, set the low cut to zero and bumped the high cut up from 11 KHz to 14.5. I then set the high parametric band to 7 KHz, left its default Q at 0.7 and cut just 1.5 dB. Made a subtle but very pleasing difference. More natural sounding to me, with a thicker harmonic content. Thanks guys for all the tips!
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Don't go there, if it's a re-boot problem it will be both hardware and software glitch. A tech trained at Line 6 gear should deal with it. Being from Encino and a Valley Dude, I sometimes wonder if Jeff Spicoli was modeled after me. Picture him with darker bushy hair and you have me. Same outfit and all. Though I didn't hang with Mick and the Stones like Spicoli, I did crew for Iron Butterfly (and their two spin-off bands) for four years. Gold front, hmmm,... what's the serial number? Found it. Yeah, have it done by an authorized service tech. When it does that, it's not a user fixable thing.
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midi Using Hd500X as a midi controller for 100W EVH 5150III
fcarey5593 replied to fcarey5593's topic in POD HD
Do you know of a way to switch my amps channels using just the 4cm, along eith desired effects with it? Or is that strictly a midi feature? -
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spikey replied to sherimehmood's topic in James Tyler Variax Guitars / Workbench HD
No its not just you. As Cru suggests, FRFR is a popular way to go here and will sound better because of the frequency responses of the guitar cab versus the acoustic. And dont skimp on what is I believe the most important part of your sound, the speaker. Usually, you will get what you pay for here. Yes, you could just simply use a P.A. amp/speaker setup with a mixer to balance vocals, acoustics and such. Lots of people go this route too. Its a little more costly depending on size and quality. -
midi Using Hd500X as a midi controller for 100W EVH 5150III
hurghanico replied to fcarey5593's topic in POD HD
I guess that you can use the 4CM and change your tones with just 1 FS press.. Given that you have an amp that can be controlled by presets programmed and saved in your midi switcher, and you have the POD which every time you select a different patch automatically sends program changes to your midi controller (programmed accordingly), I don't see why you should tapdancing to change your tones. just 1 FS press from the POD should be all is needed like in this videoclip: -------- in regard to how to switch the hd500x from left to right (clean to distortion) in a smoothly way, have a look here: https://allabouthd500x.altervista.org/allabouthd500x/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=69 -
+1 on the "READ ME FIRST" idea (Idiot's Guide to Basic Tone Design"). Still, the "FIZZ" (in some quarters known as "That L6 Sound"), would better be removed than providing another cheat sheet that nobody will read. How about a new effect called "FIZZ KILLER"? (insert tongue-in-cheek emoticon. Hey, what happened to the emoticons? How can we possibly be expected to communicate digitally without emoticons?)
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A bit more than a year ago I bought the Helix and thought the sound sucked and I didn't like a single factory preset. Been playing more than 50 years and using modelers since the first POD so I had some experience. I came to this forum for help and "discovered" fizz. Between previous posts and answers to a few specific questions, I went from hearing junk to loving the Helix almost over night. It was not hard once I understood the Helix just a little bit and now I don't even use the often suggested high and low cuts (I do use EQ). L6 could include a sheet (READ ME FIRST) that addresses a couple of the typical newbie complaints, like fizz and how to get a good starter tone, to get customers off to a good start. But it is inconceivable to me that anyone cannot get an excellent tone if they follow the basic suggestions everyone here has, assuming they have a good enough guitar, pups, headphones, etc., and they are not trying to copy someone else's tone (can be done but obviously harder for a newbie). And I'm NOT accusing anyone, but if one's playing sucks, the Helix ain't gonna fix that (insert smiley face since I couldn't)!
