duselton

I will let this question float for 24 hours while we give Line 6 an opportunity to express is doing comparison using brand and model names is good ediqute. I personally feel that it is not, but the general community feels it would useful, I am willing to offer my personal comparison between the Stagescape and the two main compeititors in my mind. I own one and use the other when I help a friend by mixing his band.

Hi, Dave again, I do NOT think Line 6 misled me regarding if the channels 13-16 had mic preamps. That was very clear that it did not. But it is unclear to me why, and there was no mention of the fact that line inputs 13-16 would crippled as far as signal processing. When I was comparing this to my existing mixer (no names here), there were ups and downs to the two approaches. But my existing mixer had 16 mic inputs and I use all 16. But my thinking was, hey two us use wireless mics, the bass and keys outputs do not need mic pre's so I should be able to get by for this aspect of the comparison. It does not say anywhere that these four have limited processing and all these cool preset could not be applied to this inputs. So I do feel a bit misled in this aspect. Overall, this is a VERY impressive mixer and I am happy with selection and looking forward to showing to a club owner this weekend whom I feel will really like this. But at the same time, I urge Line 6 to consider a firmware update to this item to extend full channel processing to these inputs. Again, especially since you sell a full line of wireless goods which abstract the need for a mic pre. Thanks all for the input and this is a great dialouge. Items that are a clear winner over my existing digial mixer - Digial Inputs is so much nicer. Hate being out in front with ipad and need to adjust the input level and have to go all the way back to the desk to do it. This is MUCH more handy when using ipad tools - Easy UI but pluses and minuses to the usability but overall, I give the edge to the line 6 - Love being able to record without a laptop - Love the size Things that could use improvement (beyond the line inputs) - Seperate iPHONE app for JUST dedicated monitor mixs. (love my current mixer where I can lock a mobile handheld to ONLY changes allowed for their monitor mix) - Would have been SUPER sweet to have MIDI for control interfacing and coordinated shows, but too late for that now - If the inputs connects could have been rotated, this would be very cool for bar owners who want to mount it to the wall, but NOT expose the inputs to the bands. Nice when you can use a snake instead and let the bands break that low cost piece as opposed to trashing the inputs of expensive mixer.... :-) Thanks again all for the great conversation !!!

Yes, the fact that there are no MIC pre's on those channels should proclude the need for things like Phantom Power, but the full processing spectrum should be there. I love the mixer, don't get me wrong. But this was a little misleading on Line 6's part. Maybe it is the limits of the internal processor, but when I looked at it, I thought they only did these 4 channels as TRS just for size. But in the end, most of these addtional features are for show at best, but nice if I could use the dynamic eq on those 4 channels. THat is a COOL effect that would great on vocals which I usally have as wireless mics and thought that was perfect use for those four channels and made it a 16 musician input desk. Dave

thanks for the record playback tip. Love community forums. Yes, so Line 6, it is a bit wierd that a company that makes so many wireless devices would take the 4 channels which would best fit that output of those devices and allow a full 16 channels of musicians and make the limited. Still a nice tool for the money....(some might say a tool for a tool, but you all don't know me that well) Dave

Hi, Just got my stagescape and I think I am a little confused. It seems that many of the presets cannot be assigned to channels 13-16. So if I happen to use a wireless mic for vocals and want to put that into channel 16 I am VERY VERY limited in the presets that I can use for those channels. Very limited channel modulation combinations. etc...basically the three band EQ, Hi pass filter and compressor. Am I missing something? Also, on my unit, when the mute channels button is not engaged, it does not show any color where the mute all does have a faint glow. Is this normal? Lastly, is there does not appear to be any way to play the tracks I recorded back thru the mixer so I can use it to mix down the show. Is this correct? Very cool device that is replacing another piece I have just do to its size etc...this is just a guy trying to optimize his world Dave