deanwitherden

@datacommando When I said days, it was maybe a whole day stretched over a few hours of free time after dinner for a few days. I think most of the time was getting rid of the latency then understanding the DAW before I got the chance to "Stick Native on a track". Thanks for the post, i'll have a play with those settings on the patches that i've made, see how much more I can extract out of them. I know my @Line6 was a super longshot, you never know though. Thanks for picking up my post, you have given me another technical challenge to explore! I have been looking at the Helix Floor though! Don't tell my Wife!!!

@silverhead This is more of a concept exploration rather than specific problem but here goes. Pro Tools free, Steinberg UR22C, HP Zbook Studio G7 (Core i9, 32gb), FCB1010 w/UNO 2, Peavey Valveking 112 w/FX loop. @datacommando Why? Because it sounded like a challenge? I dunno, finding that pushing my knowledge of a digital rig more satisfying than playing. Sad I know. For context I haven't played in years until about a year ago and decided to go digital to save money. Holy s#%* was it a learning curve! Many days spent on YouTube just to get a sound! I've been just plugging into Native for ages with a nice set of headphones and then one day I hooked up to the amp and it just sounded better. But got to thinking about the signal chain wanting to use Native for all effects and realised that they can't all go in front of the amp so here we are. And you hit the nail on the head, Native isn't a one stop shop, i've got the 1010 but have stopped there. Now pushing the gear i've got to do what I want. And yes, $ is a factor. I'm not a pro or in a band anymore so can't justify $1000's on hardware (i've got to have money for guitars...). What i've realised is that Native is different to a normal digital rig approach, most digital rigs are a DAW with plugins and MIDI is sent to the DAW whereas Native takes a lot of functionality away from the DAW. This probably isn't 100% technically correct but a concept I had to wrap my head around to even start to understand the UNO 2 firmware. Anywho, turns out it was a crazy idea?!? For the $900 I spent on the interace, 1010 and Native maybe I should have bought an old floor board? I liked the idea of having a latest gen setup though. And god damn the hardware is holding it's value much better than it did in my day or I might be able to afford something (with an expression pedal). @line6 wouldn't it be cool if we could do what i'm trying to do? Any plans? Peace

So this might be a crazy idea but if Helix Native is top shelf (which I think it is) then I can't see why I couldn't do what I want. Essentially 4 cable method with Native providing distortion etc into the amp input + delay etc into the FX loop. Guitar into input 2 of interface (hi-z input) Add distrotion etc using Native Line out left to amp fx loop Add delay etc using Native Amp FX loop into input 1 of interface (non hi-z, will this be a problem?) Challenge 1 - if I do this in the DAW I think I'll need 2 x Native plugins and need to configure both to receive same MIDI commands + have patches for both pre-amp and post-amp aligned to the same patches, if this is even possible. If I add Native to both channels in DAW, the MIDI node changes to 2, no idea whether I can send commands to 2 nodes??? Challenge 2 - the signal chain is configurable inside of Native but it seems to reference a physical pedal (Helix Floor etc) rather than inputs of interface. If I'm correct maybe Native does have drawbacks over Line 6 hardware? The more I research the more I think this won't be possible (or too hard to bother), I wonder whether Line 6 will give me a credit towards a floor board? lol