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Hello! I’m experiencing what appears to be a preset-recall/DSP state issue on my Helix Stadium XL. I’m using Helix Stadium Edit on a Mac, and the problem is specifically related to switching between presets that use different signal-path configurations, particularly dual-amp presets. Problem My Solo preset is programmed correctly and sounds exactly as expected immediately after rebooting the Stadium XL. However, after switching away from the Solo preset and then returning to it, the preset can sound incorrect even though all of the parameters displayed in Helix Stadium Edit appear to be correct. The incorrect sound is particularly noticeable because it sounds as though the cabinet is not being applied, even though the cab block is visibly active and is not greyed out. Reproduction The following behavior is repeatable: 1. Reboot Stadium XL → Load Solo preset → Solo sounds correct. 2. Load a single-amp preset → Return to Solo → Solo loads correctly. 3. Load a dual-amp preset → Return to Solo → Solo sounds wrong. For example: Double Double (dual amp) → Solo (dual amp) = incorrect sound Whereas: Stadium Rock Gig (single amp) → Solo (dual amp) = correct sound I also initially noticed the same problem when going: Clean → Solo The Clean preset appears to produce the same problem, and further testing showed that another dual-amp preset such as Double Double can reproduce it. Important observations The Solo preset itself is saved correctly. Immediately after rebooting, Solo sounds correct. When Solo sounds wrong, the amp, cab and other parameters displayed in Stadium Edit appear correct. The cab block is not bypassed/greyed out. Changing cab parameters does not restore the expected Solo sound. The problem appears to correlate with switching from a dual-amp preset into another dual-amp preset. Switching from a single-amp preset into Solo appears to work correctly. Rebooting the Stadium XL reliably restores the correct Solo behavior initially. This makes me suspect that some DSP/routing state associated with the previous dual-amp preset is not being completely reinitialized when the next dual-amp preset is recalled. The fact that the preset parameters displayed in Stadium Edit remain correct while the actual sound is wrong makes me think this may not be a simple preset-saving issue. My Solo configuration The Solo preset uses a dual-amp setup: Brit Jujube Cali 2C+ Dual-amp/parallel routing Cabinet processing Additional effects I have previously also used parallel routing/blending and expression-controlled routing in these presets. Could you please advise whether this is a known issue with dual-amp preset-to-preset recall, or whether there is a recommended procedure for clearing/reinitializing the DSP state without rebooting the entire unit? I would also be happy to provide the affected presets, screenshots of the signal paths, Stadium Edit files, or a video demonstrating the exact reproduction sequence if that would help. Thank you, Hitesh

I would still prefer to use my DAW Cubase for the backing tracks instead of showcase, that's an additional screen as well. Probably will have to go with an additional sound card only then.

I have submitted a request on the product feedback as well. I like to run dual amps and cabs for my setup, all 4 paths are getting used and there is none left for the usb and backing tracks in this scenario. Very limiting indeed...hope this can be fixed in the next update.

Firstly, congratulations to the Line 6 team on the Helix Stadium XL. The Matrix Mixer, Showcase integration, independent output buses, and USB audio interface have made the Stadium one of the most innovative live-performance processors currently available. This proposal is intended to unlock one workflow that I believe would make the Stadium XL the definitive all-in-one live performance hub for professional touring musicians. ⸻ Current workflow Many modern touring musicians now use a laptop running Cubase, Ableton Live, Logic, MainStage or Reaper as the central show controller. The DAW simultaneously provides: • Backing tracks • Click tracks • Spoken cues • MIDI Program Changes • Snapshot automation • Tempo automation The Helix Stadium XL already receives MIDI perfectly over USB. The missing piece is flexible routing of USB audio returns. ⸻ Current USB Routing Currently: USB 1/2 ✔ Appears directly in Matrix Mixer ✔ Independent level ✔ Independent routing ✔ No DSP path required USB 3/4 Requires DSP Path USB 5/6 Requires DSP Path USB 7/8 Requires DSP Path This means additional DSP paths are consumed purely for routing audio rather than processing it. ⸻ Real-world example Professional live show Inputs Helix • Guitar • Bass • Vocal Cubase USB 1/2 Stereo Backing Tracks USB 3 Click USB 4 Voice Cue USB MIDI Program Changes Snapshot Changes Tempo Changes Desired Matrix XLR (FOH) • Guitar • Bass • Vocal • Backing Tracks (No Click) (No Cue) ⸻ Phones / IEM • Guitar • Bass • Vocal • Backing Tracks • Click • Cue ⸻ Current limitation Because USB 3/4 cannot be accessed directly inside Matrix: Click and Cue must consume one or more DSP paths. This reduces available DSP for: • Dual Guitar amps • Bass processing • Vocal processing • Parallel effects • Additional routing ⸻ Proposed Feature Expose: USB In 3/4 USB In 5/6 USB In 7/8 as Matrix Mixer sources. Exactly like USB 1/2. Each should provide: • Level • Pan • Mute • Solo • Assignment to: • XLR • 1/4” • Phones ⸻ Even cleaner implementation Instead of adding three additional Matrix channels: Simply allow the existing USB Matrix source to choose its source. Example: USB Matrix Source ○ USB 1/2 ○ USB 3/4 ○ USB 5/6 ○ USB 7/8 This would require almost no UI expansion. ⸻ Additional Enhancement Allow multiple USB Matrix channels simultaneously. Example: USB 1/2 Stereo Backing USB 3 Click USB 4 Cue USB 5/6 Playback Stem Each independently routable. ⸻ Why this matters The Stadium XL is uniquely positioned to become: • Guitar Processor • Bass Processor • Vocal Processor • USB Audio Interface • Playback Engine • MIDI Show Controller • Monitor Mixer inside one device. No additional interface. No external mixer. One USB cable. One pedalboard. One MacBook. ⸻ Competitive Advantage Many touring guitarists currently carry: • Guitar Processor • Playback Interface • MIDI Interface • Small Mixer The Stadium XL already contains almost everything required. This firmware enhancement would allow many musicians to eliminate: • Additional USB interfaces • Playback mixers • Extra cabling resulting in: • Faster setup • Fewer failure points • Easier travel • Simpler stage footprint ⸻ Why this fits the Stadium philosophy The Matrix Mixer already supports multiple non-DSP sources including: • USB 1/2 • Bluetooth • Aux • Showcase playback • Click • Count-in Extending Matrix support to additional USB return pairs would be a natural continuation of this architecture and would greatly enhance the Stadium’s role as a complete live-performance hub. ⸻ Final Thoughts I’m a professional touring musician building my live show around the Helix Stadium XL. My goal is to use a single USB connection from Cubase to carry: • Backing tracks • Click • Cue tracks • MIDI Program Changes • Snapshot automation while using the Stadium XL as the only stage processor for guitar, bass, vocals, monitoring, and FOH routing. This enhancement would make that possible without additional hardware and would elevate the Helix Stadium XL into a class-leading solution for modern live performance. Thank you for considering this feature request and for continuing to develop such an innovative platform.