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I've forgot to say that I have IR from OwnHammer and Redwire (I have the 8x10 and the 4x10 Ampeg). I'm a "long time" user of IR, and they sound so real to me (this is maybe the worst part of the Helix, the cab sim) I'm going to put a DI signal into my path, you are right on this spot! Too bad there aren't any (or just one Mic Preamp) DI/preamp simulation (I mean, real preamp rack like Avalon U5 for example If line 6 read me :D ) I know that my spot should be something like: 1 path GK/8x10 with a good low-end mic. 1 path GK/8x10 SM57, with just a tiny touch of overdrive coming from a Rat for example. No distortion, but just making my high and mids crisp a little. And a 3rd path as a clean DI like you suggested me. With just the 2 first path effected by modulation/big overdrive effetcs, and my DI path keeping my clean signal. On the paper, it's exaclty what i'm looking for, but I find myself always moving sliders here and there, and then finally, just delete the presets to make it again because it doesn't soun SPOT ON to me :( It's also nice to hear that i'm not the only one who got problems finding something that suits me on the customtone

Yes I think you are right, and the problem in this case is "me", not the gear. Everythime I put a pedal (for example a Distortion, always on for my dirty signal) I can't stop tweaking it, switching it with another distortion and then... Erase my preset and start a new one :( I'm also glad about what you say on the CustomTone and the fact that you never use anything coming from it. Most of the tone are good i'm sure but for bass they aren't many presets for what I'm looking for, and they were built around a bass/pickups/play style I don't have, the results it's so different from what the guy creates.

Hi guys ! I have a question.. I use Native since it's out, and this things make me go for a Helix. I'm a bass player only. I love this piece of gear, really! To play in my DAW with a headphone, or in a FRFR cab, it's perfect. I'm a "no amp" guy, and want to do everythin with my Helix. The sounds you can get with it are pretty convincing to me, but i'm so bad at it... Everytime I go for a new patch, the tone I get is so bad (for my taste). Not a gear problem, I am the problem. I can't make something balanced, it's either too much distortion, too much high, too much low etc... The tone I'm for are quite "complicated". I mean, it's not Bass "into amp and let's go". I take the route of players like Justin Chancellor/Billy Sheehan/Geddy (I don't speak about their tone, ut the way they achieve it) who split their rig in 2/3 paths. My bass is a Warwick Thumb (German made), so no problem with it also... No it's just that I can't make good patches. Am I the only one, who can't stay on a patch I made, for a long time because after a 2 hours play I think it is so bad? Have you got tips for me? I know the CustomTone is here, but for bass there aren't so many preset, and most of them aren't absolutely not close to what i'm looking for. I also have solid knowledge about gear/audio etc... I understand what I do, I know how to use high-pass, low-pass, splitting signals, keeping clean low, distroting only the mid/highs etc... I'm just... bad in the creation of my tone. Until today, the problem wasn't a real problem, because with one amp and 2 pedal, you have to do only with what you have. But with the Helix and AAAAAAAAALL the possibities, I can't stop on anything more than 2 hours.