I'm not sure there was a disconnect but anything is possible. My main want was to be able to run the "Litigator" amp simulation into the front the MM and still have a good Litigator sound out of the amp. "Not going to work", got that. My other question was if it was possible to get Litigator sound using just the effects, ie the pedal simulations in the Helix, (no amp simulation used). Again not possible, it appears. Got all that now. And If I cannot get the Litigator sound by putting the Helix in the effects loop it may be best to get an "FRFR (PA) speaker instead". The disconnect may have been in my attempt to explain better what my goal was. Thanks for your inputs.