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HI @rd2rk I hear ya, but in my experience, I've bought MANY iOs related cables in my life; some Apple, some knock off, some other name brands, etc., and to be honest, I have rarely noticed a difference with regards to better compatibility / performance and certainly not longevity with Apple cables as they break / die just as fast as no-name brands (only a much higher price tag). It's unfortunate that this stuff just can't "just work" and be more consistent in 2025. Just my $.02 And thx again for your responses and help!

Thanks for the replies. Update: I bought a USB female to USB C adapter and a USB B to Lightning cable on Amazon (not Apple cables, but ones that had better reviews than others). They both worked for the MIDI functions from the iPad Air 2 to the Helix via Setlist Maker, however, the adapter was somewhat inconsistent as it would not work, but then if you plugged it back in (or flipped it around), it would work. The fit of the lightning cable end on that adapter was not very snug in the iPad so perhaps that was part of the inconsistency? So the good news is it works with both of those options, what I can't figure out is why the USB B to USB C adapter didn't work (as the same adapter worked with the iPad Pro)? Not the biggest deal as this is by back up iPad, but I still want/need it to work consistently. Thx.

Hi again @RD2RK , Correct on getting it working on my iPad Pro and you were incredibly helpful figuring that out, so thanks again! I hear ya, as I can't think of any other reason it could be. That said, the USB B to USB C (female) adapter I have works with a USB C to USB C cable on the Pro so it would be weird if it didn't work for a USB C to Lightning cable but IDK. I looked for a USB B to Lightning cable on Amazon last night and literally every cable had an Amazon warning re: frequent returns due to compatibility and/or durability. But I may buy one just to test it out (this is for my back up iPad after all). @datacommando thx as well for your reply. I have a similar cable for HDMI connection, but I'll have a look into that type if the above doesn't solution the problem.

Hi all, I was recently able to set up my Helix to be controlled via my iPad Pro (SetlistMaker app) to change programs, enter into Stomp mode, and change come footswitches). It's an awesome feature for gigs when I have multiple guitars! I have an older iPad Air 2 that I use as a back up for my charts and was trying to set it up to do the same. Every setting in the 2 iPads for the app is the same, but MIDI isn't working and the app is not recognizing the Helix in the MIDI log. The app developer is wondering if it's a compatibility issue with the iPad or the hardward connectivity. The iPad Pro connects via USB B from the Helix to USB C on the iPad, whereas the iPad Air 2 connects via USB B to USB C adapter (which I've tested the adapter with the iPad Pro and it's fine) and then a USB C to Lightning cable to the iPad Air 2 (all of these cables and connections are supposedly compatible with the SetlistMaker app. Does anyone have a set up or have had an experience like this? Thx!

OK, first of all, THANK YOU for all the help and the time you've taken on this. WE (YOU) GOT IT! Your last explanation and the sample preset you sent really helped clarify this for me and I was able to understand it better and make the necessary adjustments on my Helix as well as in SLM. A couple points to note (and for anyone else in the future who may read this): You are correct with regards to the dual use of the Block (ON when switching presets manually via FS, OFF when switching presets via SLM MIDI). No snapshots (for now), that's 2.0 for me on this journey. Yes, I do want the Command Change (71 0) for Stomp Mode. The purpose of this is for performance, so for example, if I'm at a gig in my full band and I have a 6 string acoustic, a 12 string acoustic, and an electric (which actually has 2 outputs; magnetics and a piezo, more on that later) and I'm switching songs AND switching guitars, the idea is to tap the right song title in SLM and have it call up the corresponding Helix Preset for that guitar > change into Stomp Mode > and unmute the Send/Return FX Loop block that I have linked for an external tuner (all my Helix presets are set with that block engaged so that the Preset for that guitar isn't 'on' while I'm plugging in/out, etc. 1 of my guitars is a PRS Hollowbody II Piezo, so it has 2 outputs, one for the magnetic electric pickups and one for the piezo 'acoustic' output, each with it's own input into the Helix but they have independent signal paths in the Helix Preset. One output functions like the other Presets for the external tuner/mute block but it caused me to need to create an additional mute 'switch' via a Volume block on that Preset (requiring me to engage 2 FS to unmute the guitar). In this case, I created the same CC (4 0) for the S/R FX Block and then an additional CC (5 0) for the Volume block to unmute both inputs from that guitar. I did have to make a MIDI timing adjustment in SLM for a delay of .1 seconds (Settings > Audio & MIDI > MIDI Options > MIDI Preset Order > ...with Delay Between = 0.1 sec) in order to get the CC 4 0 to work correctly. Fortunately, this only creates a slight delay when switching instruments (it does not create a delay if I switch songs in SLM and the primary MIDI preset in both songs is for the same guitar, which is great for continuity while performing live) but the slight delay when switching instruments won't be an issue. I just tested it between songs, guitars, etc. and it's fantastic! SLM is changing the presets, going into stomp mode, and un-muting the S/R FX Loop block(s)! THANK YOU AGAIN!

Adding to my last reply. I shared your last comments with the SLM app developer and he replied with: "Reason being that when I do this in Reaper, 127 always TOGGLES, 0 does not. I want to see if it's the same in SLM" Set List Maker doesn't do that. You can set the CC value to 0, 127 or any number in between and it will always send the number you entered. You can see that from the output from your MIDI log that I added to this ticket on March 20. "That neither allows you to specify the ON/OFF Values..." Set List Maker does allow you to specify the CC value. CC messages have two fields, Controller and Value.

OK, I think I follow. I've changed both BYPASS ASSIGN and MIDI BYPASS in HX Edit on the FX block to None. I'm still unclear on what I'm sending from SLM in this test. Since we no longer have FX Loop tied to a FS, sending CC 50 with a value of either 0 or 127 would seem irrelevant to me now, so I'm unclear on what command in SLM to send to bypass the block? Thanks.

Hi, sorry for the delay, the site would not allow me to reply for a few days (??). Thanks for the reply. I hope I'm following what you're proposing, but I may be a little confused as it's still not working (I tried values of 0 and 127 for the CC). But, when you say "BYPASS on that Block should ONLY be MIDI BYPASS" and "eliminating the FS BYPASS setting" , I assume you mean when I go into Helix Edit, have the MIDI IN turned to CC4 on the BYPASS/CONTROLLER ASSING screen ? And then in SLM, I'm confused too, as it sounds as though you're saying to remove the CC#50 message, but don't CC's need the 2 codes (the CC and the Value)? Thx!

Hi. Circling back on this. So, if I understand your 2nd to last reply, I updated FS2 on the Helix under Bypass/Controller Assign > MIDI In > CC4, and then in SetList Maker I put the Control Change as 50 and 4. If that's correct, the behavior remained the same: every other time I call that MIDI preset it turns FS2 on the first time, then off the next time, then on the next time, etc. Below are the last several commands from the MIDI log, which is essentially calling the same MIDI preset multiple times. Also, I am aware that SLM has been replaced by the developer with BandHelper, but he actively supports SLM (he's just not making updates going forward) and I have an open ticket with him on this topic. 13:28:14.783 - sending data [BF, 47, 00, BF, 32, 04] to all ports (48) 13:28:14.784 - sending data [BF, 00, 00, BF, 20, 05, CF, 02] to all ports 13:28:27.474 - sending data [BF, 47, 00, BF, 32, 04] to all ports 13:28:27.474 - sending data [BF, 00, 00, BF, 20, 05, CF, 02] to all ports 13:28:28.415 - sending data [BF, 47, 00, BF, 32, 04] to all ports 13:28:28.415 - sending data [BF, 00, 00, BF, 20, 05, CF, 02] to all ports 13:28:29.867 - sending data [BF, 47, 00, BF, 32, 04] to all ports 13:28:30.466 - sending data [BF, 00, 00, BF, 20, 05, CF, 02] to all ports (2) 13:28:30.467 - sending data [BF, 47, 00, BF, 32, 04] to all ports Thanks!

Hi. Thanks for the reply. As I'm fairly new to the world of MIDI, there are some things in your reply that I don't quite understand, but will keep trying to make heads or tails of it. That said, as I am able to have MIDI change the Helix Preset, go to Stomp Mode, and (at least every other message) disengage a footswitch, I thought I had the general gist of MIDI. As you say, it may be a bug in one of the devices. Line6 finally sent a reply to my inquiry telling me to look at the Helix manual (really?) which I did, but they did not address my specific issue. I am also having a back and forth on an open ticket with the SetlistMaker app developer, but he is unfamiliar with the Helix and how it functions. His app does have a MIDI Status Log and I can see when a message was sent, but as a MIDI newbie, I don't fully understand how to read it as the values in the log don't look like the MSB, LSB, PC numbers in my MIDI presets.

Hi all, I'm trying to get the SetlistMaker app to communicate with my Helix floor via MIDI (USB). I've been able to get the app to send the correct MSB, LSB, PC codes to change Helix presets when I switch songs. Additionally, I've added Control Changes to have the Helix switch into Stomp Mode, but the final piece is to turn a block (attached to a footswitch) on the Helix preset once in stomp mode. The reason for this is because each Helix preset I use live has a Send/Return (FX Loop 4) block connected to an external tuner, which of course mutes the preset, but when switching songs (and therefore presets) in a gig setting, I want the patches to be 'live'. All of my Helix Presets have a block like this and they are defaulted to have the block 'on' so that when I plug in / switch to a particular patch, it's muted for tuning and to avoid any unwanted hum (ie an acoustic guitar) if I'm not actively playing when switching. I've entered Control Change 71 Value 0 to get the Helix Preset into Stomp Mode and then Control Change 50 Value 127 to get FS2 to turn that footswitch (and the associated Send/Return block) off. Here is the PROBLEM: What is essentially happening is that regardless of the song and it's associated MIDI preset, the behavior of that switch is defaulting on/off every other time a Helix patch is selected. For example, when I select song 1, it turns that switch off (desired result), but when I switch songs (whether the next song has a different MIDI preset or the same MIDI preset as the previous song), it turns the switch on. It alternates consistently from song to song or preset to preset. I basically need the Helix to turn that block/footswitch to 'off' whenever it receives a MIDI command. Thanks for the help!

Hi all. I recently purchased a PRS Hollowbody II Piezo SE and am trying to work on the signal path for the piezo (this will be separate and distinct from the mag pup signal, not blended). For years, I've had a Warmoth that has a Fishman PowerBridge and Power Chip installed for the piezo signal and it's worked great with the patch I built, but the Baggs piezo in the HBII is a very different animal in sound, output levels, etc. Any suggestions or help is greatly appreciated! Thx.

Also, how do I submit via Ideascale, I don't see a link on the Support page.

Thx for the reply, that's what I figured. Unfortunate, as it seems like that would be something that a lot of people could use.