so yes, I think you've got it. I did not see the fs1 + fs2 thing. I did change fs3 to stomp3 because that was required to set up my jet hx midi switch. I don't even really know what the stomp3 setting does, but if it means I can't use the fs3 for tap tempo then that kind of sucks. I did have bypasses programmed in but I probably undid them when I was trying to figure out what I did wrong. thanx for the help, now I know where to start.