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Pod XT Live information
Kenny202 replied to Kenny202's topic in POD 2.0, POD XT, Pocket POD, FloorPODs
Thank Bruno. It does appear like many professional guys still using these pedals. I guess live performance and tweaking delicate tones at home or recording are very different things -
Kenny202 started following Right Line 6 for me.....HX Stomp, Pod GO or HX effects and Pod XT Live information
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Just wondering if anyone can tell me a little bit about the XT-live. I am not a super tone hound but want something with decent usable effects. Also ability to use the amp modelling would be great. My needs re modelling basically Fender twin or Deluxe and Roland JC type amps. I'm not interested in loading extra impulse responses etc as long as the sound is decent out of a PA. To give some idea I also use a Boss GT-3 which I love and also very old tech (early 2000s) and it has a basic Fender twin and JC and they sound ok to me. Its my belief will never get the real feel of a nice lush tube amp out of one of these things so something that sounds like it will be close enough for me. Also what about the other effects? Most units have decent reverbs, mods...What about compressor, distortion? Are they decent? I saw a highly rated US studio guy the other day using a HD-500X....would I be better off with one of these? One of the main reasons I am attracted to the XT-live is the foot switches look more robust and I have heard the switches they used for a period (M9, M13 etc) were troublesome. Just bare in mind I am pretty old skool guy. Not looking for deep ambient reverbs, zany nods etc. Just really decent basic effects AKA Boss pedals. Any advice appreciated.
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They look good but probably a bit much for me I think. Not really a fan of the multiple dials either.
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Really if I was going to continue down the Line 6 / modeller route I would probably just buy a HX effects, but I struggle setting Line 6 effects anyway. Too old lol. And to be honest not a big fan. My needs are fairly basic. Not really into ambients etc. Will just stick with what I have for now I think. Spending too much time mucking around with gear and not enough time playing. Thanks all for the help
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I gave the Pod Go idea up pretty early as they only have 4 available effects. I'm not a big effect guy but for lead I would need Comp / OD / Mod / Delay / Reverb. I did try a Pod go but the effect adjustments were a bit deep for me. In any case I just been down the Valeton route....Nice unit and nice effects but it just doesn't sound great with my amp as I am sure any other modelling units wont, even plugged into the Fx loop or 4CM. I did actually try it with a FRFR speaker and sounded like a Twin or a Deluxe or a JC....kind of, but it sure didn't feel like one. The deepness you get from a Twin or a Deluxe I doubt you could properly replicate it digitally. I am sure they sound great recording, maybe even live under the right circumstances with excellent IR's but I am too old for all that. I am going to try the small Valeton GP-100 just for effects and probably end up going back to my old Boss GT-3....They were designed to sound good in front of an amp.
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I'm actually an Aussie living in Thailand. I plan on buying used / near new and a used stomp in the scheme of things only about $50-100 more expensive than HX FX, Pod Go so a saving on the difference nice but not a big deal. Wah pedal a bonus on the Pod Go for me but if I didn't have it wouldn't be a deal breaker. I can actually use Amp models (No cab) with the JC as its pretty neutral..But only basic amps like a Twin or Deluxe....no hi gain amps. It's nice to have a change sometimes though again not a deal breaker if I didn't have it and a more dedicated effects only / dedicated pedal was going to sound better or have more versatility with my amp. As you can see I am all over the place lol. Just trying to get the best overall solution for the best sound and most options. To be a more specific with my questions.... I know the HX FX probably my best choice using with the amp only. Just not sure I want to sacrifice the modelling. Its nice to have sometimes Given the Stomp and Pod Go are more dedicated amp modellers....using them without amp / cab into my amp, as effects only are they going to sound lesser than the dedicated HX effects? Is a Stomp going to sound much better than a Pod Go? Given I am not overly concerned with intricate effects chains / connectivity / recording that you get in the Stomp. I don't really need a lot of buttons and don't use a lot of patches...maybe 4 or 5 and I usually set these up next to each other so changing from say rhythm to solo playing live only a click or two away. The stomp has patches you can preset into banks etc and has 2 (up / down) buttons to scroll through right? The Pod go does seem to have it all. Extra buttons, exp pedal...But if it is not going to sound overall as good as the Stomp or Fx I would rather get the better live sounding option. If it only basically has 3 extra effects / blocks that you can add it probably wont be enough...right off the bat I would need DS / OD, Comp, Mod, Reverb, Delay. I must be misunderstanding that. 3 effects cant be right? Thanks for your help
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Hi all. I use a Roland JC-85 SS amp, always set clean and looking for some sort of muti fx solution as at this stage I want to keep using my amp. I really love the JC tone and feel. Just some extra effects. Mainly for practice, live. I am not recording or worried too much about sample rates, connectivity or putting effects in parallel etc. I just want a nice all in one fx unit that I can use an effects loop maybe put the Fx distortion in front of the JC amp and delays, mods etc behind. On the surface the HX effects would be the best for for me as I am not really interested in modelling amps / cabs etc at this stage...but would be nice to have that capability in the future. If my amp ever fails I will probably just go down the modelling trail and get a powered speaker. So I guess that negates the HX effects right off the bat. I will say I have tried quite a few of the Chinese modellers Nu-x, Mooer etc and found them to be unsatisfactory with an amp. Even set to amp (combo front) mode they just don't seem to sound good into the front or rear for that matter of an amp. And in fairness it seemed to me they weren't designed for that even though they have the combo amp settings. Seems to be a work around to me. Will the HX stomp / Pod go be any different or they will be "ok" ish, but not really what these units are designed for? Apart from advanced pedal chains, connectivity etc I keep reading the Pod Go has most of the effects capabilities of the HX. very hard to find actual specs or comparisons on Line 6 stuff. I have seen the Helix has 6 usable blocks but I am not sure if 2 or 3 of them are going to be used up with ext loops, EQ etc. I assume they have some fixed blocks like EQ, Wah etc. I was reading before on this forum the Pod go only has 3 usable blocks? I thought it was four? Any advice appreciated. I know The HX probably overkill for me but I am getting older and probably the last bit of kit I will buy as far as effects. Even if not using it to its full capability would be nice to have the best available effects and everything I may need in the future. On the other hand the Pod go is a lot cheaper and if that will do what I need and sound as good as the Pod Go I'm in. Can any one confirm for me the fixed effects on both pedals and what is left over that you can choose whatever you want. Or why one might be better than the other for me Any help or advice appreciated
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I was using amp out and global settings. Some amp / pre amp models (less cab) into the amp I found were great, Roland JC etc give my Super Reverb a whole different thing and some of the amp pre amps better than the overdrive pedals. But I have since given the podgo away and gone back to the Nux MG-300. Whole different thing I know but I just want basic effects and I find the NUX comp and EQ just work better without a lot of knob twiddling. I also find individual effects (Chorus / Flanger / Delay) etc seem to tonally color the sound too much and it all ends up an electronic mess. I want a delay to delay the signal, not add a whole lot of bright / flat / mud etc. Each to their own. I have a friend at the moment going down this route and ended up with a FRFR PA set up and yeah its flat and you get the true sound of the Podgo, but its not like a nice guitar, with nice pick ups going into a nice amp. Its kinda like putting all your focus on the effects unit rather than Guitar / amp. Might be good for recording or through headphones in stereo etc but not for me. Reminds me when I was a young bloke and we all bought cheap nasty old cars, and then spent a fortune on them trying to make them decent lol. I know these are supposed to give you many different options all in the one box rather than be stuck with a singular sounding amp but nah..Don't see a session guy turning up to a recording session or gig selecting his amp for the day from a PodGo, or HX stomp whatever.
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I am a gigging player. I was pro stomp box set up myself and wanted that type of unit but I do not use many presets for eg 2 or 3 in one song is plenty for me. Mainly covers light rock and pop, duo stuff. So I might have my first bank set up Clean chorus, Clean boost ,Clean / Flange / Clean Boost sort of patches.....made up with different things of course. If you used more than that in one song I agree it would be a pain, like I wouldn't want to be switching to the next bank in the middle of a song. So my next patch is never more than one or two button presses away. My clean chorus patch may for eg have blocks compressor, Chorus, Delay, EQ.....the clean boost might have comp, drive, flanger, EQ, Delay......I just find its a lot easier to do it this way than tap dancing a pedal board of 6-8 pedals at once, once you get over that mindset. The next bank of 4 patches I might have set up in a similar way for a rock song, with OD rhythm, OD boost etc. So I start off in Bank 1 for a clean song, and bank 2 for a heavier song. I would have set up the Pod in the same way even though it has 6 stomp switches. Not sure if the MG-20 is the same animal. The Nux MG-300 interface is brilliant intuitive and easy to use also I found. Look, not running the Pod down in anyway. I am sure in the right hands and if you have the need for many things the Pod would have many more features than the Nux. Its not hard to use once you get into it and it has a ton of connectivity which I don't need. The Nux only has one stereo output. When you talk about gigging musicians I wonder if any of these guys have actually worked dark noisy pubs, beer being spilt everywhere etc. Some of the pedal boards must have at least 20 connectors, different power supplies. It's a lonely place in the middle of a song groping around on the floor trying to find a disconnect in your cables somewhere. Maybe ok set up on a desk top at home, 4 cable methods and such. All good if you have the need, its just not for me. The FX options in the Nux are limited but they work and they are good. I dialed in a Dave Gilmour lead tone in about 15 minutes. Was still searching three days later on the Pod. It may be all you can eat buffet syndrome lol. Maybe too much too choose from, get stuff you may otherwise not want out and overdo it. What I meant about the Delays etc coloring your tone too much is similar to what I have found with most multi effects units dating back to the 90's. By the time you add 3 or more effects it all starts sounding like an over processed electronic mess, to my ears anyway. I agree with something Tom Petty I think it was said. he said he had been through all the effects stuff, pedal boards etc and worked out at the end of the day there is nothing that will emulate a good guitar, with good pick ups through a good amp. I use effects to enhance the sound of my guitar / amps. I don't want them to be the be all and end all.
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I find the best thing to do is make your adjustments with headphones get them as close as you can, then switch over to the amp and EQ from there. It really depends on what you are doing. I like to use mine predominantly as effects, so I am more interested in setting delay times and such. Other guys I guess are more interested in tonal aspects of different amps etc and that is a different kettle of fish requiring flat response monitors / headphones. Like the other guys have said, play around with it. I got some great lead tones using amp cabs and I am just plugging into the front of an old school valve amp. Even cabs can sound good. Try them is the best way, you will soon find what you want. I have my Pod Go for sale now. It's a nice enough unit and has all the bells and whistles etc but its too much for me. I find the Comp / EQ's don't really work for me. Distortions and OD's not keen. I also found every different effect I added some tonal color that I didn't want. If I select a delay I want it to make my natural amp sound delayed, not make it brighter, or duller etc. I gone back to my little Nux MG-300. Good basic effects that work how I want them to and very easy to use. Dialed in everything I wanted in under an hour. I sat on the pod for days. I notice there are an awful lot of these used units for sale and the price is coming down fast. My feeling is the PodGo and similar is more suited to a person who doesn't have or doesn't want a heavy guitar amp, that can simply plug into FOH and get a simulated sound of a particular amp or wants to go DI into their DAW or recorder without mics. I already have a nice amp and want to retain its character. I personally don't think a Amp / Cab sim unit into a PA or anything else will be the same as a proper amp. It may sound similar but its never gonna feel the same. Just my thoughts of course, to each his own and whatever works best for you
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Yes of course, can use effects only and turn Amp sim / Cab off
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I understand that, what I was specifically asking is whether people are using them into the front of an amp using Amps and Cab sims. General school of thought is if you go into an amp you don't use an amp sim and particularly a cab sim. Just wondering if anyone is doing it
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Tried to set up a few snapshots within a patch today and something wasn't quite right. From what I understand from various you Tube videos is you set up the patch as normal. That by default become snapshot one. Then select 2, make adjustments and save....3 etc. It seemed like adjustments I had made in Snapshot 2 carried over to Snapshot 1? I must be missing something here? I was using Go edit to do it by the way. Should I be approaching it differently or saving it in a particular way? I just watched another video and they were setting up SS on the actual unit. I see they went into SS mode by pushing the up down pedals simultaneously. When doing it on Go edit I haven't actually gone into SS mode, and don't know how to. I simply chose SS 1, 2 or 3 from the menu above
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I think now the pod go set to instrument. Will setting this increase headphone volumes? So instrument is to go direct to your amp and line is to run to a DAW or studio recording device?