Stratocatster

So Silverhead, I went out and got the required adaptors to run the lines outs from the POD combined into a TRS, and this does not work. It is dual mono. So far the only way to do it is to use up two mixer channels. I could still use your suggestion to adapt to a pair of RCAs. Haven't got those adaptors yet, but it does work with another source, so that would work.

So I was looking around my studio, and I found I have some stupid left. This may actually be a separate topic, but it comes about as I'm testing the advice given here. And it's not a huge problem, just me still not getting this thing fully. I sent two 1/4" cables from the POD line outs to L3T #1 mixer inputs. When the Stereo Link Switch is set to Dual Mono, that's what I get. However, when I use Stereo Link mode, rather than have both of these inputs controlled by Channel 2, they appear to be independent. So, it's stereo, but I have to manually adjust the relative levels, rather than controlling the pair. The pilot's guide says: When connecting a stereo source to the two inputs, it can be convenient to have a single set of controls adjust both signals simultaneously. Placing this switch in Stereo Link mode disables Channel 1’s controls and allows Channel 2’s controls to affect both inputs...If a second L3t is connected via L6 LINK, stereo signals will be split automatically between the two speakers. Once again, am I missing something? Thanks in advance guys... Later edit: If I understand the diagram on p. 4 of the specifications, the stereo link does not include the gain controls. I'll leave this up in case it helps someone.

Silverhead, I have to thank you for the handholding. You have been very patient with me.

Silverhead: Well said, and it did make sense, and I agree. One thing I didn't realize was that the input on the L3T took a TRS. Did I miss that in the documentation somewhere? Would I not be courting degraded signals with either of these adapter solutions? So, you've said earlier that this rig will do everything if you hook it up right, and I think you've proven that. I still maintain that this seems a kludgy solution for the OP (and myself etc), and I feel his frustration as well. Seems to me to be quite a common requirement (that all your stereo stuff stays stereo) and especially with the L3T, to expect it to share some PA duties is also by design, to wit: the mixers. So you were right, and I'm still unhappy. Maybe we should start dating? JOKE

To Silverhead: I started with the XLRs out to each L3T, but have switched to Line outs, one to each L3T. The signal is quite a bit hotter from the line outs (15db louder???) I haven't tried that, as I don't have those (rare?) adaptors. That should work, but it beats me that of the three outputs from the Line 6 Pod, none work to provide stereo to a pair of Line 6 L3Ts out of the box (when connected to have the mixer and inputs in stereo). Seems a clunky workaround to simply have everything work in stereo. You mentioned that the line in's assume the line in's are mono and send it to the centre of the stereo spectrum, but that is not true except for when using the line 6 link between the two speakers, i.e. the only way to get all of the other outputs in stereo. Similarly to the Colonel: You're suggesting that I have to give up half of my mixer channels to make this work. Good thing I didn't buy L3Ms then, I guess? You see that your solution would make a dream rig with a pair of L3Ms impossible. You have also (with both switched to stereo) killed a further mixer channel on the other speaker. Both of these solutions should work, but I don't believe it should be this way. I will report back when Line 6 responds to my ticket. Thanks for the input.

Hi Silverhead. Yes I do get stereo out of the headphone output. I should have mentioned it. I saw that in this whole thread that my problem was not really addressed, so I opened a ticket. I'll report back what they tell me.

I know this discussion is a bit old, but I have pored over it carefully and I'm still out of luck. If I simply limit it to Silverhead's last post, because that's my main issue, my observation is that his third para is not quite true: What I lose is stereo sound out of the POD. I have two L3Ts standing up, I've tried XLR outs, Line outs, and Link6. It does seem like a serious limitation. To have to choose between stereo guitar rig and stereo anything else is not on. To have to use up two of the mixer channels to make this work is also not on. Has anyone found a good solution to this?

I can see that I have started a post on an issue already being discussed here . My apologies.

Thank you Colonel, you've led me to some further exploration, but I'm still confused. I'm also not sure how to make the pics bigger. Please bear with me. First of all, as I understand it, the stereo/double mono only affects how the inputs to the mixer are handled (i.e. channels 1 and 2 are combined or not). So that isn't really involved. I did try it anyway, and it doesn't affect this issue as I'm describing it. Let me show you what I have and what I'm trying to do. With this setup, the POD does not work in stereo, but the mixer and the RCA aux ins (11) and both mixers do work in stereo. If I disconnect the two Link6 cables, I of course lose the stereo from the mixer and RCA inputs, but the POD and the CD/MP3 in on the POD are both stereo (although I don't like the sound of the CD/MP3 in). If I connect with Line6 link from the POD, and then to the second L3, it all works as you say in regards to the PODS, including the speaker assignments 1 and 2 and stereo sound. However, the RCA aux input (11) does not cross over to the other speaker. It only plays on the speaker it's plugged into. So I tried this. I ran one XLR from the Mix Out output (14) of #1 L3T to the line in of #2 L3T (10). (red line) This sends the CD player across to the other, but the result is mono. There is no CD Player audio at the Loop thru output. Just to check, I tried to run from the Mix Out output (14) of #2 L3T back to the line in of #1 L3T, and was glad I was ready to yank the cable. This sets up an internal feedback loop. No go. So, I simply would like to have both the POD and all inputs on the L3Ts operate in stereo, and I can't seem to pull it off. Can't be right. Thanks for your time... John

I may be confused, but I don't get this. My setup is JTV>VDI>HD500X>L3Ts x2. I go out of the POD via the line outs to the individual inputs on each L3T. However, if I connect the two L3Ts together via the Link6 two way connection, the POD plays in mono, including the CD/MP3 input. If I disconnect the two way Link 6, I do get stereo out of the POD, but if I connect anything via the mixers or the RCA inputs, they don't make it to the other speakers. This just doesn't seem right. Can someone tell me what I'm missing? Thanks, John

I have no experience with the DT. When doing my research, I thought the flexibility of the L3 was more what I needed. Acoustic sounds, sharing with the keyboardist etc. No regrets, I am really digging in. I use PA/Reference mode exclusively, so that's why I can ignore the L6 link (except between the two L3Ts). A bit of weight to carry, but I have been getting sounds that are just what I'm after.

Yeah, I should learn how to read better. Using L3t I don't lose much by not using L6 link, clearly DT owners do.

I've got a JTV into the HD500X, into a pair of L3t's. I used to use the XLR's out, but based on another thread, I now use a pair of line outs, going into the main inputs of the L3Ts. I only ever use the PA/Reference setting, so there is no loss not using the L6 Link. In fact the output is hotter this way (by which I mean it's louder than I could ever use). I now can use global eq, and I understand the reasons why it wouldn't be applied to the XLRs or Link6 out, and that is because the soundman would deal with these signals, not you. Try the line outs, it is the best way I know of to hook things up. This thread has the info I now refer to: http://line6.com/support/topic/12826-xlr-way-quieter-than-14/?hl=volume I've made some measurements you can find here. You'll see that the gain from Guitar(normal) to 1/4"(amp) out is -4.9dB while the gain from Guitar(normal) to XLR is -14.3 dB (and gain from Guitar(normal) to headphone is +10.5dB). In addition, the 1/4"(line) output is 6dB larger than 1/4"(amp).

If I was troubleshooting this I would want to know: 1) Are you using the POD connected to your computer? The only latency I've come across is due to monitoring both the POD and the output from the computer including the POD (now delayed). I haven't seen a full second, but it's bothersome. Usually for tweaking the Workbench etc, (i.e. not recording) I turn the POD (acting like a soundcard) all the way down in the computer. 2) Do you have a normal guitar cable connected as well? The presets in the workbench default to Guitar +Aux + Variax, and this means you may be hearing your mags signal, even when your VDI is totally out of the picture. It would add to the confusion if this is the case. That is, if you're set up that way, and if my morning coffee is working correctly. Hope you get it sorted, latency and intermittent sound cannot be lived with.