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Tochiro, If you are carrying over a Setup from prior to updating your system to 1.2 firmware you could have the same problem I was having. (Random reverb and levels in the mix). Try starting a new setup and scene from scratch. (i.e setup a blank stage from the very start.) I saved each individual channel strip first and named it something unique, then I started a completely new setup and used the channel strips I had just saved to load in. This way I was able to keep the compression, EQ, Reverb etc for each instrument. So far so good. You still have to recall that setup each time you turn it on, but after doing this exercise I haven't had anymore problems.

Update to the last post. We played two gigs with the mixer yesterday. Set it up twice, recalled the setup and scene we wanted. No errant reverb in channels and the mixer did as expected. Thanks to Line 6 tech support. The problem seemed to be retaining an old setup from prior to the firmware update.

We went a little further with the mixer last practice. I uploaded a completely new setup using the channel strips we had saved. So far so good. We turned it on and off a few times and no latent reverb on channels. Loading the setup and scene each time. Cross your fingers. True test will be on the 11th of May when we gig and then bring it back. I will have saved this setup with changes under another name, so we will be trying to reload the current setup as practice again.

Ok, no mistaking it now. Unlike Digital Sound's issue, my issue with the effects loading randomly is different. Took the unit and played a gig Sunday, brought it back and set up for practice on Thursday. I had saved the gig under a different setup and scene. Thursday when we set up for practice, I made sure to load the Practice Setup and Scene I had saved prior to our gig. Bottom line, the unit loaded random Reverb on two channels. An acoustic guitar and the Dobro. I have done as Tech support has told me to do, and per what Digital Sound has said above.

I spoke with Tech Support on the phone yesterday. The way Jbrunner explained it, is, Global FX such as the reverb, delay etc is like an Aux Send on a analog mixer. Kinda like an effects loop where you would send a signal out and then receive a return signal. The other effects such as EQ, Compressor, etc. are channel effects and run in the channel setup. So... the Global FX is saved under Setup, and the Channel FX are saved under Scene in that you can change the Scene during the song and get different Channel Effects. So same answer as previous in the save function. As to why when I saved the last round in Scene and then Setup and lost the reverb we still do not know. He mentioned to do some tests with a new setup from scratch. So I will do that Thursday when at practice. (Probably a single channel to start off with.) He also mentioned that if I had a setup saved from prior to installing the 1.2 firmware update, this might be a carryover issue. The fix to this would be to simply setup the mixer again from scratch. The setup I am using was saved prior to 1.2 firmware update on my machine, and the issues started after I did the firmware update, so this very well might be the issue. So wish me luck on Thursday. I'll report back. I'm really interested in doing the testing. Jbrunner, please post if I said something incorrect. Thanks

I agree with tochiro, to a point. Being that you can have two different save options, why not just update the firmware to make it have three save options? A "SAVE ALL AS" type button would be beneficial in the expectation that when you recall a "SAVE ALL AS" file it will set the mixer to ALL of the parameters that you last heard in both the monitors, channel strip and front of house. From there you tweak, and "SAVE ALL AS" again under a different file name, say for a different venue. This was basically what I was expecting when I bought the mixer. Our band has no use for making Scene changes within the song, although I can see some bands who would benefit. I simply want to make an adjustment, save it somewhere and then be able to recall that adjustment the next time I turn on the mixer without having to go through the tweaking process again. I am awaiting a tech response, from my last post. When I receive that I will share it.

Just got back from practice. To test the mixer we re-set all the instrument channels to start with. We are running nine instruments into the board. We started with running the trim annalizer on each instrument channel, made sure all of the effects were off, with the exception of three instruments and one vocal mic, On those four channels we added reverb and set send and return levels. We saved each channel strip with a name. Next we turned each monitor level to level mark and then adjusted each instrument send to each mix. Had a good sound and did our practice. made a few adjustments to trim levels, but all in all had a good mix. After any trim adjustment we resaved the channel strip. At end of practice we saved the scene under the performance tab. Then we saved the setup under the setup tab. turned the mixer off. When we powered back up, monitor levels stayed. Reverb return levels on all the instruments and mic were gone. We went to sence and reloaded the practic scene. Reverb levels on returns remained off. I adjusted the reverb return on the fiddle channel, saved setup, turned off the mixer, waited a few seconds, turned the mixer back on, and checked the fiddle reverb level. The send snd return level was correct per the saved levels in setup. So....Performance Scene saving does not save the reverb. Not sure what to do next. FYI, we are only running monitor mix. haven't messed with the front of the house on this exercise.

Thank you for your response. I believe this is a part of my problem. The other part was explained by an email from your tech services. " Hello, The way that saving works on your StageScape utilizes SETUPS and SCENES. Your stage icons and location is saved as the SETUP, which can be viewed, edited and saved, from the SETUP mode (the setup button on the left of the touch screen). All of your levels and sends are saved as part of the SCENES. This allows for you to have the same SETUP, but different levels, pans, sends, FX levels for different songs. To save your SCENES go to the PERFORM mode and save your scene in the top left of the touch screen. You will want to save your SCENE FIRST, and then save your SETUP. I hope this is helpful. Please let me know if this does not solve your problem. " I will give this a try on Thursday when we proactive. Thanks again for the response!

If you save a channel strip say a guitar with reverb, and a trim input setting. Then at the end of the gig you save the setup in setup mode and call it practice. Next time you play you change the channel strip and add let's say delay. You save that channel strip with the same name. I.e. you overwrght the previous channel strip. Then end of practice you save this setup in setup mode as practice 2. If you go back to setup practice (the first one), and load that setup, which channel strip will you get? The one with delay, or the one without delay? I am wondering if the channel strip setup is following the the saved setup? Thanks

Went to practice again tonight. We loaded a saved setup and the monitors dropped out completely, and the trim on all of our instruments went down. We did not change channel setups at all. After practice, I turned the unit off, waited about 5 min, turned the unit on and loaded a different set up. All monitor levels went to zero, but the channel settings appeared to stay the same. Very frustrated.

Set up for practice tonight after the gig on Sunday. I had saved the Sunday gig settings and the Stagescape recalled those settings no problem. So this appears to be a intermittent problem. I did notice that I hadn't reloaded the effects for my pedal steel when I had to reset things on Sunday. So that explains the dry tone at the Sunday gig. If it drops the scene setup again, at least I'll have an idea what to go fix. Hope this glitch can be fixed in the firmware.