Thanks for the speedy response. I was actually hoping it was ignorance on my part and not hardware malfunction. can you recommend a good vid to watch on this? Im sure i have something else messed up or am expecting it to act differently. Now with the fx loop enabled, get dry tone even though I have the delay after the fx loop module and it is tuned on. But then if I turn off the fx loop module, I get zero sound. So, all I want is to simply use the amps tube gain structure but be able to tell it what fx go in from of gain stage like screamer and others that belong after gain stage like delay - verb etc. Maybe Im going about this wrong