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Thank you rd2rk for sharing your amazing experience, i only use FRFR at home with low volumes just to finish and dont bother you anymore! so you say that PC212 speaker sims (any of them) at high volume is the same experience as using a poweramp with 212 cab? (no matter the speaker type?). regards!

Thanks! yes i have the 212 and when I play it loud it shines! I really like how the speaker sims sound but is just my obsesive side that wants confirmation that they sound like a real 212 cab with speakers and not "hifi". Also do you apply any kind of EQ for the speakers models, or use them just how they are? thanks for all your help!

Thanks! that would mean that the difference between LF RAW frecuencies and speaker sims is that the LF RAW has way more frecuencies (hi and low) than a normal guitar speaker? Also, do you think that the speaker sims are like a real speaker soundwise (frecuencies, thump etc)? I dont care that they sound like the real deal but just like a real speaker in a cab.

Thanks, and what are the EQ differences between LF RAW and the speaker models? It seems the LF RAW has more bass and hi frecuencies than the speaker models (sounds good but with a lot more mid frecuencias and less hi and low)

Hi PC212+ user here, What are the EQ differences between LF RAW and the speaker models? It seems the LF RAW has more bass and hi frecuencies than the speaker models (speaker sims sounds good but with a lot more mid frecuencias and less hi and low) The feel of the Lf Raw IMHO is more "real" than the speaker models and I want to achieve that with the speaker models. Regards.

what are the specs (frecuencie range) of the eminence 12 speakers?

yes, thanks! asked line 6 and they told me to bring to service (I live in Chile and we dont have here so I wanted to do it myself), the new display is sold by full compass but maybe is some electric resistor or any other issue (it seems it got failed during an electric outage). I opened and reached the inside but couldnt find how to open the display compartiment behind the speakers, I think I will leave that way.

Hi guys, what is the frecuency response of just the woofers in the PC212+ (LF RAW MODE). The powercab is 70hz-20Khz but including the coaxial tweeters.

thanks, I know, but now the problem is that the blue light (electroluminiscence light) never worked again, just once when I reainstalled the firmware, but once i turned off the powercab did not work anymore, I can use the display with no light, not a big problem but I would like to repair it to have it mint.

yes got it. I was trying to have the same sound and feeling EQing the NATURAL with the LF RAW, to have a EQ curve to apply to the other speaker sims to have more highs and low thump, but then I realized what you said, the LF RAW sounds with a lot more high and low punch because is a FRFR speaker with no hi or low cuts at all, is the full range 70hz to 20Khz, the speaker sims recreate the guitar normal range 80-100hz to 5K so at low volume sounds muffled but at high volume sounds amazing and cuts really weel in the mix, so I stopped my search for the unicorn!

is it possible to access the display? i need to repair the screen!

from a moment to another the electroluminicent light (blue light) stopped working, just worked for a while after I reinstalled the firmware but once I turn it off, the next time wasnt working, what could be a solution? Also is there a guide to how to dissassembly it to get to the display? regards.

@somebodyelse true! good point. Good to know that the PC+ vintage sound really close to the real v30 you had tho' thanks!

thanks @rd2rk its not, not even all 212 v30 cabs will sound the same, even the same cab (same brand etc etc) could sound slightly different, and I guess line 6 engenieers AB the speaker sim with some specific type of cab to model the powercab ones.

Thanks @rd2rkno, im not so picky either, just trying to get the most "real" feel and sound from the speaker sims, for example the vintage to sound and feel just like a real 212 v30, at high volume sounds amazing, but the thing i dont understand is why in LF RAW it sound with more low end and hiss but if you take the natural speaker (thats suppose to sound just like the LF RAW) it sounds with some kind of aggresive hi cut and low cut, but as you said, at high volume beucaes of the fletcher munson its sounds amazing, not intender for home use, but for live and rehearsal.

Thanks @rd2rk, yes! speaker sims at HI volume... wow!!! at low volume I feel the LF RAW sounds with more punch than the speaker sims (more low end) but at high volume both sounds great... so you dont use any kind of "global eq" for the speaker sims? I read a topic here at the forum some member recomending increasing certain frecuencies (250, 2k,4k, and 8k)

Hi @rd2rk I read you use speaker sims, wich one do you like the most and do you apply any kind of EQ at the end of the chain to have more thump (as a real amp)? thanks!

Hola, si estas en españa puedes preguntar a Thomann por este codigo 50-03-0156 o al distribuidor de line 6 para españa y ellos te lo deben traer, yo vivo en Chile y se me ha roto dos veces, lo pido en Sweetwater en USA (se demoran como 2 semanas en enviarles la pieza desde line 6) y luego lo despacho a un hotel de algun amigo que este viajando.

I really like the sound and feel of the LF RAW mode on my powercab 212+ (amp in the room), so I am trying to get the same sound and feel for the speaker sims pairing the NATURAL preset with the LF RAW (they should sound and feel the same but they not) applying a 10 band EQ at the end of the chain to increase some frecuencies in the natural preset, I am getting closer but not quite there yet, any advice? after that I want to use that same EQ for the other speakers sims modes.

its a 10 band Graphic EQ where you boost the 250, 2k 4k and 8k frecuencies, i do it between +3 to +5db, game changer

amazing info thanks! I use the 212 with my FM9 and I like it a lot, love the stereo, love the FRFR but was kind of frustrated with the speaker models, I really like the LF RAW, but with the speakers I feel it lost low end (thump) and high end and was looking a lot about EQ parameters to compensate, will try it today based on your suggestions. amazing!

one year ago I broke one and got a replacement from sweetwater... today i broke one again so I am sending an email to get a quote :S

you do not need 2 XLR cables, you just need one L6 Link that basically is a XLR with 110 ohms impedance (regular XLR are 70 ohms) I bought a monoprice in amazon and work great, I have stereo sound and can change modes an speakers models from my helix floor with just that one cable, you could add a MIDI cable to have total control of the powercab and that would be 2 cables at most.

does this work with the AES EBU cable?