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  1. Well no but only because I'm running an acoustic (electro acoustic) into my PA (via my helix). I found the acoustic sim on top of an acoustic was too much. I assumed the Acoustic Sim was more for attempting to make electric guitars sound like acoustic, not improving the sound of an acoustic using piezo pickups. But - I just tried it and while it didn't work when running entirely through the acoustic sim, I liked the top end/crisp it gave my guitar in conjunction with an IR. So I ran the acoustic sim on the split/b path but dialled in down to about 20% so all it did was enhance the acoustic/IR signal on the other path. Worked really well actually.
  2. I just recorded this. Excuse the random playing but hopefully should give an idea of sound. Hopefully this link will work. Any tips on improving this? This is with a 3 Sigma audio Martin acoustic IR plus a bit of compression and an EQ.
  3. The guitar straight into the PA on its own sounds ok but it still has that piezo sound to it (that I would describe as plastic). The "quack" sound is from when I apply the IR. (Any of the IRs I'm using, that is). The IR adds clarity (which I like) and gets rid of the piezo sound (which is a good thing) but introduces a "quack" sort of sound/frequency that I'm not so keen on. I think your point about blending the IR in quite low is a good one. I'll give that go. Cheers
  4. Hi, I have an Epiphone EJ-200SCE which uses Fishman Sonitone Pickups. I set up a basic patch on my helix for this acoustic guitar. It was an LA Studio Compressor, an EQ to get rid of a bit of the boomy sound and then a bit of plate reverb. It sounded pretty decent (to my ears). Then I started playing around with adding IRs first in my chain. I tried the 3 Sigma audio Taylor IRs that I think are geared towards dealing with that piezo sound and they seemed to do a really good job of masking that sound (I've never liked "that" sound of electro acoustics... that sort of plastic sound you get from piezo mics). But - there was a frequency happening when I applied these IRs that I just wasn't liking. It had a sort of a "quack" sound to it that I found really difficult to dial out. My ears aren't good enough to know exactly where the problem was. I sort of thought it was around 1khz but it didn't really improve the sound when I knocked that out. (I tried moving a narrow parametric eq around but I just couldn't nail it) So I decided to ditch the IR and go back to the simple patch I'd dialled in first. The problem now was that in doing that I was back to the piezo sound and it sounded dull compared to the IR! It's like the IR had shown me I could get better sounds out of my guitar/helix but I didn't quite know how to improve the IR. Almost like the IR gave me that crisp acoustic clarity and removed the piezo sound but it also got rid of the warmth I liked about not using IRs and added an odd quacky sort of frequency. I guess my question is - given the guitar/pickups I have can any of you recommend any decent (acoustic guitar) IRs to improve my piezo sounding guitar and also any tips on how to dial in a good sound. I want a nice clear, acoustic sound without any boom that sounds good picked and strummed. Cheers.
  5. Tube screamer, ODR 1, Fender Pugilist. Yes - absolutely I've compared direct in vs in fx loop with no other blocks in the chain. Impedance is set to auto, will try at 1MOhm. There is a discernible difference, I'm not making this up and I doubt a loss in quality converting digital to analog and back to digital is just "malarky". This is the original thread I read where someone else described the issue: https://line6.com/support/topic/26937-why-do-my-drive-pedals-in-the-helix-fx-loop-sound-bad/
  6. Yes - all set to inst. I'm not using any amp/cab blocks. Just using HX Stomp as an overdrive/modulation unit really. The difference between running the overdrives in the fx loop vs straight into (before) the Stomp is quite significant. I was reading another thread on the subject which was a few years old and I think it was generally accepted (back then) that this was just the case with running analog pedals in a digital effects loop but I was hoping there was a more reasonable fix for it nowadays.
  7. I found an old thread on this describing my experience but thought I'd resurrect the subject to see if there are any new approaches on this one. I run my HX Stomp into the front of my valve amp. It sounds great. I also run my (real) overdrives into the HX Stomp. This also sounds fantastic. However - if I create an fx loop in my hx stomp and place my real overdrives in that, they sound awful. Unusable. I want to be able to do this so I can run some hx stomp effects before and after my real drives. I assume that using an FX loop means the signal is converted to digital, passed through my drives and then again, that signal converted to digital. The difference is massive, not just a slight difference but the difference between clear, articulate, responsive overdrives and mush. Is there anything I can do to improve the quality of using overdrives in the loop of the HX Stomp? Cheers.
  8. Thanks for your responses all. I quite like the idea of the Victory preamp with a powerStage 170. Could still fit on my board and that PowerStage 170 looks pretty decent.
  9. Hi. I've gone through various combinations over the years, FRFR, solid state amp into a cab, valve amp etc.. And I've come to the conclusion that (for me) I love having a real amp to play through and I didn't really get on with FRFR (no need to debate which is "best", this is just my personal preference). But - I also love my helix. My current set up is running in 4CM into a valve amp. I sometimes use the preamps in the helix and go straight to the powerstage of the amp or I sometimes use the actual valve preamp of my amp... Depending on the tone I'm after. This way I get best both of worlds and still get to have my amp in the room. However - I'have also played the helix into a solid state amp head and then into a cab before and that sounded great. My thinking is, if you're going to use the helix as your preamp/amp then you're better off using a solid state head as your powerstage as it won't colour the sound of the helix in any way as there are no more tubes involved in the chain. In theory it should offer a cleaner/truer sound. Plus - getting old/arthritic etc I don't want to be lugging my 2x12 combo amp around too much more. So - I'm thinking the ideal setup would be some sort of head with a tube preamp and solid state powerstage and then I could run the helix in 4cm into that and still get my tube fix when I wanted to keep things simple but then also get the best of the helix when I run it into the solid state powerstage.... And then hook it up to a cab. That's my idea anyway. Does such a head/amp exist? Any recommendations?
  10. I've gone full circle on this (a couple of times) and have arrived at a slightly different place. I've tried the FRFR thing and while , for me, it arguably sounded more polished, I just felt slightly disconnected from the experience. Plus - when my band invested in a PA and we ran both guitars through that, it just didn't feel the same as having an amp right next to me. Now - I appreciate that's what the crowd will hear but for actually playing the instrument there's still something to be said for having an amp next you (the most enjoyable 'sound' I've ever experienced was playing through a beat-up old marshall head through a 4x12 at rehearsal studio.. ) Anyway - amp-in-the-room argument has been done to death. That said - I sold my HX Stomp, went valve amp 2x12 (blackstar artist - excellent amp) and love it to bits. Much better experience during practice sessions. But - even then I started to miss the versatility of the Stomp. So I bought one again (first bit of kit I've ever bought twice) and I run it 4 cable method into the blackstar. For me this is the perfect setup - I still get my tube/amp in the room fix but I have the versatility of the stomp. I can also run the stomp preamps/amps direct into the power section of the amp so I get that flexibility as well. The only real functionality I'm not really using is the Cabs/IRs as I'm running into a real cab (obviously). Coming back to the Stomp I've realised what an amazing piece of kit it is. I'd say even a handful of the drives alone make it worth the money. On a side note, I also run a Victory V4 Sheriff in the loop so that's an option as a preamp. I have tested (for ages) the Victory preamp vs the helix plexi style preamp. They are very close.. you can get them sounding almost identical but the Sheriff has more dynamics and feels more responsive under the fingers when playing. There's also an undeniable sparkle and clarity it has even at high gain that I can't get out of the Helix.... But - it's really close. I guess I just like the flexibility of switching between old and new ways of doing things. It is a bit more set up but not that much more and yes, I do have to lug an amp from my car but I just love playing next to it and getting all that subtle feedback and interaction you only really get with a real amp.
  11. Yeah - your approach is right... it was more me just adding noise gates at the start of the chain whenever I set anything up without even thinking about it..
  12. I'm on HX FX which doesn't have the "built in" noise gate so I'd need to use a block anyway. You're absolutely right - I think the noise gate after the compressor makes sense. Actually - I've got a Keeley Compressor Plus on the way so I'll hook that up before the HX FX and save a block.
  13. I would guess most of you will think this is obvious/wonder why I was being daft but I just discovered something about using a noise gate and compression (in my HX Effects). I've always added a noise gate at the start of my chain. Not sure why but I never really thought about it much... just set it up with default settings and left it there. Then I would generally add a compressor block. However - I always thought the compressor blocks were a little lacking - something a bit dull about them. Until yesterday when I decided to turn off the noise gate and play around with some of the compressor blocks. Totally different..... the compressors sounded so much better. Then I realised that the noise gate was "messing" with the signal to a point that the compressor wasn't able to do it's thing properly. They just weren't working well together. Do you guys always use a noise gate? If so - do you run a compressor after it? Feels so much better to play without a noise gate or at least with it set to kick in far less aggressively - to let the compressor do it's thing with more of your signal. Sounds obvious now I think about it but my guitar tone just got a load better...
  14. Yeah - I often stick the Teemah at the start of my drives, set to low gain. It's incredibly useful. Just seems that the Lightspeed has a bit more sparkle to it or something....
  15. Hi... tempt me away from buying a Greer Lightspeed. I've been loving the demos I've heard of that pedal - it has a great dynamic/clarity to it that I really like. Any recommendations to getting that similar style of overdrive in Helix? Cheers.
  16. But - in stereo? 2 instrument cabled going into 2 DI boxes which then connect to 2 channels of the mixer (panned left and right) by XLR?
  17. As I run my HX FX in stereo - so both 1/4inch L&R outs, wouldn't I need 2 di boxes and then take up 2 channels of the mixer? As it is I run 2 1/4inch cables out of HXFX direct into a stereo channel on the mixer (with L&R 1/4inch inputs)
  18. Sorry, yeah - HX FX. I'm using revivaldrive as my preamp and then IRs in HXFX
  19. Stereo XLR outs on HX FX?
  20. Thanks - we're going into the 1/4inch input, not the XLR (I'm actually going into the L/R 1/4 inch inputs as I'm using stereo effects but the other guitarist is going into the 1/4inch input pictured below):
  21. Hi - my band have just invested in a PA system - fairly standard set up - mixer, 2 active tops and an active sub. We're running guitars (through helix) direct into the mixer. Each channel on the mixer has a gain knob (I guess a sort of preamp). Our approach is to plug the guitars in, increase the gain knob until the clipping light activates and then roll it back slightly so we get no clipping... that's how we're setting our base/input levels. I read about using a DI box but in the set-up i just described, would you need a DI box? Seems to be running just fine as it is. Cheers.
  22. Thanks for your suggestions on this guys. We're going to go and listen to as many set-ups as we can. Also looking at the presonus air 15 plus presonus subs. They seem to get good reviews.
  23. Thanks - our thought there was that if we needed more inputs we could run a small mixing desk into one of those inputs - we'd probably only need to do that if we wanted to mic up the drums. Just a small 4 channel mixer would then cover the drums. It was the sheer convenience of these things that impressed us - plus the fact that I could use one them at home to run my helix through when dialling in patches - they're actually quite compact.
  24. Thanks for your responses. The reason we were looking at the RCF evox 8 (with the Jmix console/MIXER) is just how convenient they are to store and put up. We did a gig this weekend with an old PA system and it took ages to put up and it didn't sound great. The JMIX has, effectively, 6 inputs which would cover 2 vocals, 2 guitars, 1 bass and a kick drum - at the moment that's all we'd need and it has the benefit of all the digital/virtual desk controls. Was thinking of getting one of therm and then an additional evox 8 without the mix console to give us a pair. They sounded great in the shop - do you not think they'd be loud enough? a pair of those plus a couple of floor monitors was the plan.
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