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Hello, can an effects block be configured to cut completely the signal thru it when bypassed? The purpose is to use only wet blocks in a parallel loop. So, when effects disengaged, the signal must be cut. Can this be done?

Hello, I have this layout. The send is for the input of the amp. Can an effects block cut the signal when bypassed? I mean, my intention is to set reverb and delay full wet. And when I activate those effects, only the wet signal will go to the parallel loop. When the blocks are bypassed, I don't want any signal thru them, cause that would create phase issues (Same guitar signal on input and parallel loop effects return). Is any way to do that?

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Jus here to report the tests I've done. I just tried the method2 and IT WORKED :O I modified 2 guitar cables, cutting the ground from a side of each one. Then I connected them EXACTLY as the image of the first post. HXFX RETURN (Not grounded ring) -> AMP LOOP SEND (Grounded ring) HXFX OUTPUT (Not grounded ring) -> AMP LOOP RETURN (Grounded ring) The ground hum is completely gone. Maybe I will do a video. I will post it here. Thank you for the tip!

Sorry, just to clarify things. I don't get which send/return are you talking about, amp or hxfx. On the second method, you talk about "effects send and return that plug into the amp". Well, in the image the modded cables are the HX Return and OUTPUT. Not send. Other people puts a hum eliminator into (HXFX SEND -> Hum eliminator -> AMP INPUT) but in your image that cable isn't modified. So, to try grounding mod, do I have to do it in these cables? HXFX RETURN (Not grounded ring) -> AMP LOOP SEND (Grounded ring) HXFX OUTPUT (Not grounded ring) -> AMP LOOP RETURN (Grounded ring) Would this be correct? Thank you!

Hello, I am trying to use the line6 helix effects into a JVM410H head serial loop. The JVM has 2 loops, 1 serial/parallel and another serial with pre-amp out / power amp insert. I am using the second one. It is line level. I don't want to use the first loop as it has a wet/dry knob, so will never be a real series loop. How do I set up the outputs level in the Helix? I am using FX Loop 1 with 4CM. Right now, I have setted: FX1 loop BLOCK- Line level Block FX1 Send - Amp input: -14db (Line level reduced to instrument level) Block FX1 Return - Amp send: 0db (Line level loop) Main Output - Amp Return: 0db (Line level loop) Another option I tested: FX1 loop BLOCK- Instrument level Block FX1 Send - Amp input: 0db (Instrument level) Block FX1 Return - Amp send: -14db (Line level reduced to Instrument level) ALTHOUGH IF THE SIGNAL IS CLIPPING THE LEVEL REDUCTION WILL STILL HAVE THE CLIPPING SIGNAL. The main problem is that in the HX FX the level of the FX Loop 1 is within Send and Return, and in 4CM send goes to amp input (Instrument level) and Return comes from the amp loop (Line level). Does anyone has any suggestion?

Hello, I think I just found a solution I didn't know it existed, in the manual. Page 31. You can set a block independent to snapshots, what is exactly what you want. You can enter into this menu pushing 'Action' button on the HX FX while the block you want to edit is selected. This feature is a really game changer, really interesting to find this out. Press Snapshot Bypass to toggle On/Off state for this block. SNAPSHOT BYPASS:ON By default, all blocks are set to “On” to automatically control their bypass state via snapshots. Change to “Off” to disable snapshot control of the selected block’s bypass state. NOTE: The arrow at the right of this scribble strip indicates that there are more Action options on the next “page.” (You may alternatively see this indicator by itself on a scribble strip, depending on the type of block or menu selected.) Press the button to advance to the next page for other features.

I understand you now. You want the FS1 (Ext. amp) to be independent to snapshots. I don't know if this is possible. Did you find any solution?

I don't know if I understand you. You can send different ext.amp command PER snapshot. You have to save all commands from EVERY snapshot. So if you have 4 snapshots, you have to go to the snapshot in the editor. Change the ext.amp command behaviour and SAVE. Then change snapshot. Repeat. Different amp channels per snapshot IS POSSIBLE. Is this your problem? If you assign ext.amp command directly to a toggle, lets say FS1. The command state will be as it was saved on that snapshot1. If I save that snapshot1 with FS1 in amp crunch channel, then If I change to snapshot2, change the amp channel to clean, and go back to snapshot1, the toggle state will be as it was STORED. So, crunch mode (This is your problem). You have 2 solutions. Add Snapshot toggles in footswitch mode and save ext.amp command per snapshot with the lightnings. Or change the snapshot changing behaviour from the menu, you have an option for the device to remember the last snapshot state. So it will be as you left it when you leave that snapshot. For me the best solution is to add snapshot toggles in footswitch mode and add lightning commands for ext.amp switching.

Is the loop of your amp in parallel or series? If the loop is in parallel there is your problem. With a series loop I have more volume with the HX FX in 4CM with 0 blocks than a normal cable. If your loop is in series, try to check all the levels. Every block has it's level. Even the FX loop blocks. You can have +6db send and 0db+ return, as I have with my tonex pedal.

Thank you both. The thing that nobody mentions in any tutorial is the CC#00 Value. Tha was the key. I couldn't understand it from the user manual. The Tonex needs to receive 2 values from the HX. The CC#00 = 0 or CC#00 = 1 and the 'Program' value. SOLVED!

Hello, I am running a Tonex Pedal in a loop of a helix effects (Like a normal amp in 4CM) and I am trying to change tonex presets via MIDI. First off all, it's my first time using midi and I can't get it to work even watching all the tutorials from youtube. Midi cable: I have a cable from Out of HX FX to Tonex Pedal midi IN. Is this correct? SNAPSHOT 1: SNAPSHOT 2: If I select snapshot1 or snapshot2 always goes to the same Tonex Preset, the last one on the pedal. The number 49C. Does anyone experienced this?

Did you change the wiring on the pedal or within the config on hx effects? Because you can change the tip/ring config and the behaviour of the pedals on the hx....

Compensated is the signal it's made after the power tubes, the 'final' sound of the head including the master setting and the 'tubes saturation/state'. And it's frecuencies are compensated to be ready to record. However, it's the electrical signal without any cab sim. The loop only includes the sound of the preamp, In addition, I am already using the 2 loops on the HX effects. Reading the manual, the compensated out is exactly what I want. A signal where an IR will be aplied. I just tried this but Line level output has more output than Instrument level output, so this isn't the solution. I will maintain the first settings with -40db on the IR block.

I just found a setting option that I will try: I will change it to line level.