ianericdotcom Posted October 27, 2014 Share Posted October 27, 2014 Curious what the popular consensus would be on this....Could I use my G30 to transmit wireless sound OTHER than just guitar? If not, why not? More info for those who are interested: I am a solo acoustic performer, and I use a compact, all-in-one PA system from a brand other than Line6 (no need to mention names!) I will soon be buying a second, matching unit so I can have a backup as well as a dual-tower setup when I feel the need for more power. I have no intention of making this a "stereo" setup. These systems have a 1/4" output, which is the recommended method of "daisy chaining" multiple systems together. 1/4" out from one to the 1/4" input channel on the next. I already own a Relay G30 - And the idea of using it to wirelessly send that signal to the second PA system is mighty appealing....no long cables to unroll and carry, no trip hazards at doorways, the ability to have speakers in multiple areas (within reasonable distances, of course) - the possibilities are really great and the convenience factor is way high! We all know as soon as I receive my second PA system, I'm going to try it and I'll report my results. But if you want to talk me OUT of trying this for some reason, please do. Just be convincing; tell me why all my gear will spontaneously combust or something like that. What say the gurus? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dboomer Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 It will work great. You must limit the maximum input voltage to the beltpack at +8 dBu (peaks). So you will either need to turn a pro mixer down a bit or add an inline 15-20 dB pad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianericdotcom Posted October 28, 2014 Author Share Posted October 28, 2014 Hmmm....now that is certainly good information! According to the specs, the 1/4" output is a Nominal +2.2 dBu, Max +20 dBu. The system has a built-in two-channel mixer, separate volume for channels 1 and 2. I never have the either of those levels beyond 50% of full volume.Does this sound reasonably safe?And - for my own info - what damage can occur with a voltage above +8 dBu? Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dboomer Posted October 29, 2014 Share Posted October 29, 2014 So that means that your mixer will overdrive the input by +12 dB on max peaks. The relative position of your controls doesn't really mean anything. If you insert a 15 dB pad in the line that will take care of it. If you overdrive the input you will go into hard limiting, which basically is the same as clipping sonically. You won't like that :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianericdotcom Posted October 29, 2014 Author Share Posted October 29, 2014 Fair enough .... looks like I'll pick up an attenuator! Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianericdotcom Posted October 30, 2014 Author Share Posted October 30, 2014 I'm having a hard time finding an attenuator that utilizes 1/4" connections....particularly 15dB....I'd rather not use a whole bunch of line adapters to convert 1/4" to XLR to hit the attenuator, and then back again to 1/4". Most every attenuator I find seems to be XLR in and out...I may have seen one or two 1/4" but they're not the simple inline-type, and certainly not as affordable either....Any suggestions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eklynx Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 Usually DI boxes have a signal pad and take 1/4" inputs. outputs are XLR though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dboomer Posted October 31, 2014 Share Posted October 31, 2014 Here's a simple and cheap way ... you'd have to change the RCAs to 1/4's http://www.volutone.com/CALRAD-10-105-STEREO-INLINE-LINE-LEVEL-AUDIO-ATTENUATOR-P8778.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianericdotcom Posted November 2, 2014 Author Share Posted November 2, 2014 Well, I just decided to go ahead and use a more "standard" inline XLR attenuator. I also purchased proper XLR-to-TRS cables so there will be as few clunky adapters as possible. Seems to be the cheapest and simplest method.The attenuator, cables, and my second Bose system should arrive later this week, and I'll be experimenting with the wireless setup shortly thereafter. I'll post my results! Thanks for all the great advice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianericdotcom Posted November 7, 2014 Author Share Posted November 7, 2014 Well, I received all my new gear today, and I'm happy to report that the Relay G30 works FANTASTIC as a wireless solution to run signals from one Bose Compact to the other! The use of a -15dB attenuator is the perfect solution as well. I tested the setup with a -10dB attenuator, and could definitely hear the difference in sound quality; as dboomer stated, I was getting clipping. Using the -15dB inline attenuator between the Bose Compact output and the Relay transmitter, I get near-perfect sound quality. I can hear a very slight difference in the overall frequency response versus a cable, but not enough to matter. It still sounds great.I expect to be using a cable to daisy chain the units most of the time. But knowing that I can wirelessly connect these two PA's when the need arises adds an incredible level of flexibility to my live setup. Thank you, dboomer, for the great advice on attenuating the incoming signal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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