Query regarding snapshots

[willsmythe37]

Hello all,

 

Although I was super hyped for snapshots, I've only just updated my Helix since "the last update before snapshots".

 

I'd like to start using them as our second guitarist is injured at the moment, so my patch changes are noticeable now and are irking me ever so slightly.

 

Currently I use four patches

 

A clean - various reverbs/delays...chorus. Particle verb for special sections. Was and distortion pedal stomp

B metal rhythm - balls to the wall, standard metal rhythm with general compression, small room verb and a "AM radio"/eq effect. Octave harmony pedal.

C lead - volume boost, delay as a stomp. Still room verb.

D solo - extra amp gain, delay enabled, hall verb. Wah stomp.

 

Explanation) - 4 patches that have various delay, eq, octave, distortion, particle verb "stomp boxes" merged into a typical 4 patch , clean, rhythm, lead and solo setup.

 

Previously I had four patches on the front row. Various stomp pedals above. Bank select to he left.

 

I've had a little look through global settings and I unsure how to implement this setup into a similar (enough) transition, whilst using snapshots.

 

The question is, when implementing snapshots, can they be repositioned around? Or must I use perhaps a stomp/4snapshot, mode.

Then change the "bank select" on the left to preset?

Also, despite changing the setting in global, the 10 stomp setting (instead of 8) doesn't seem to appear as standard. I have to adjust the pedal mode. Is this right?

 

Any insight into a better way of doing it would be great. I need to pre-emptively setup the patch before rehearsals as I don't get to test things until gig volume.

[HonestOpinion]

Hello all,

 

Although I was super hyped for snapshots, I've only just updated my Helix since "the last update before snapshots".

 

I'd like to start using them as our second guitarist is injured at the moment, so my patch changes are noticeable now and are irking me ever so slightly.

 

Currently I use four patches

 

A clean - various reverbs/delays...chorus. Particle verb for special sections. Was and distortion pedal stomp

B metal rhythm - balls to the wall, standard metal rhythm with general compression, small room verb and a "AM radio"/eq effect. Octave harmony pedal.

C lead - volume boost, delay as a stomp. Still room verb.

D solo - extra amp gain, delay enabled, hall verb. Wah stomp.

 

Explanation) - 4 patches that have various delay, eq, octave, distortion, particle verb "stomp boxes" merged into a typical 4 patch , clean, rhythm, lead and solo setup.

 

Previously I had four patches on the front row. Various stomp pedals above. Bank select to he left.

 

I've had a little look through global settings and I unsure how to implement this setup into a similar (enough) transition, whilst using snapshots.

 

The question is, when implementing snapshots, can they be repositioned around? Or must I use perhaps a stomp/4snapshot, mode.

Then change the "bank select" on the left to preset?

Also, despite changing the setting in global, the 10 stomp setting (instead of 8) doesn't seem to appear as standard. I have to adjust the pedal mode. Is this right?

 

Any insight into a better way of doing it would be great. I need to pre-emptively setup the patch before rehearsals as I don't get to test things until gig volume.

 

You can set things up with any combination of two out of the three categories (stomp, snap, preset) grouped in four switches top, four switches bottom. Meaning you can have snaps/stomps, stomps/snaps, presets/stomps, presets/snaps, etc.. The 10 versus 8 switches setting for stomps is working the same as it always has for me. Perhaps the blurb from the manual below might explain what you are seeing. The preferences for your footswitches' behavior can be found under Global Settings --> Footswitches.

 

"By default, Preset footswitch mode displays eight presets (four on each row). Choose from "8 Presets," "Preset/Stomp" (one bank of presets on the top row, switches from stomp mode on the bottom row), "Stomp/Preset" (switches from stomp mode on the top row, one bank of presets on the bottom row), "Preset/Snap" (one bank of presets on the top row, Snapshots 1-4 on the bottom row), "Snap/Preset" (Snapshots 1-4 on the top row, one bank of presets on the bottom row), "Snap/Stomp" (Snapshots 1-4 on the top row, switches from stomp mode on the bottom row), "Stomp/Snap" (switches from stomp mode on the top row, Snapshots 1-4 on the bottom row), and "8 Snapshots" (Snapshots 1-8)."

[willsmythe37]

Sweet thanks buddy.

 

Would you suggest one of these in particular as the best mode to use for my setup?

[HonestOpinion]

There are a couple of ways you can go with snapshots. If you can fit your clean, metal rhythm, lead, and solo sounds into one preset than you can assign each one to a snapshot. Assign parameters like amp settings to snapshots that way for instance you can crank up the 'Drive' on the amp and adjust its tone controls when for instance you switch between a clean and solo snapshots.  I actually stuff up to three amps in one preset for this purpose, all going through one cab. The trick is learning to assign parameters and effect blocks to snapshots so you don't have to use a stomp as often. In this scenario I would select the 'Stomp/Snap' mode as this will keep your stomp pedal assignments on the top row as you are used to and put the snapshots on the bottom row where you used to keep your presets. Hitting either bank button will pull up the presets for switching. In addition to being able to control many parameters simultaneously the advantages of having everything in one preset is that there is almost no latency switching from one snapshot to another and the 'Trails' function on the delays and reverbs only works within a preset, not across presets.

 

If your current presets use too much DSP to use the above approach (collapsing your four sounds -- clean, rhythm, lead, solo into one preset as snapshots) then probably your best alternative might be to select 'Snap/Preset'. This will put your snapshots on the top row (the top row being the one you used to use for your stomps) but allow you to change presets from the bottom row. You would then have to use your snapshots to select and change effects much the way you used to use stomp switches to change them but with much more control of other parameters as well as simply bypassing/activating the stomps. This will allow you to select multiple effects as well as a variety of parameters all at one time from the top row of snapshots and still be able to quickly change presets with the bottom row. You would still be able to hit the 'Mode' footswitch if you need access to all your assigned stomps with either the first or this approach.  

 

Good luck! Experimenting with the Global Settings --> Footswitches parameters will probably give you a fairly quick idea of what setup works best for you. Snapshots rock, when I switch snapshots I simultaneously switch amp and cab parameters, EQ block settings, distortion pedal parameters, reverb and delay mix, noise gate settings -- the permutations are endless. Snapshots give you way more control over how many things can change when you hit a single footswitch (within one preset). You can assign up to 64 parameters to a snapshot. Plan to spend a little time getting comfortable with using snapshots and learning how to stuff and route all your blocks into one preset instead of across presets.

 

Note: Don't forget the new Alt-Click and Shift-Alt-Click keyboard shortcuts in the Editor for assigning/unassigning parameters to snapshots. They make the process much faster and easier.