matizadomrb Posted February 24, 2017 Share Posted February 24, 2017 Hey guys, I've been looking for a mic pre to run my XD-V75 so I can bring it to line level and plug it into the rear Input 1 (Left/Mono balanced 1/4" TRS jack) of my Axe-Fx II XL+... Goal is to run vocals/harmonica/talkbox through the Axe for effects/amp/cab processing (yeah it's hard to believe this thing doesn't have a Mic In like the Helix!). Anyway, while doing so I got curious about whether there was some sort of vocal processor that could handle live pitch correction like the TC Helicon VoiceTone Correct, but with a line level 1/4" output so it could also function as my mic pre. And so I found the Tascam TA-1VP... A rack mounted vocal processor from 2011 that runs on Antares' software for pitch correction (their well regarded Auto-Tune) plus mic and analog tube modeling... And of course it has the 1/4" line level output that I need for the Axe. http://tascam.com/product/ta-1vp/]http://tascam.com/product/ta-1vp/ I've been doing some research and even though the unit is a bit old, reviews from the last couple of years seem to imply that it can still hold its ground (considering the speed at which DSP has evolved in the last few years, this kind of tech could've been rendered useless pretty quick). It is certainly not perfect with very limited EQ capabilities, probably an older version of the Auto-Tune software (as it looks like it has never received a firmware update) and a compressor that apparently leaves lots of artifact in wav files when recording (not really an issue for me as I'll be using it in live situations predominantly)... But the pitch correction and mic modeling both seem to be top notch, so I figured those features could be great complements to the XD-V75's own models (which are quite different). It certainly looks like this can fit the bill for what I'm looking for (please do point out if I'm missing something that might not work for my primary goal of running the XD-V75 through the Axe-Fx), but I do have a key specific question on how to use their mic modeling combined with a XD-V75 that maybe someone that has used/owned a TA-1VP or that understands the XD-V75 on a more technical level, might be able to answer So, the way the TA-1VP mic modelling works (see page 26: http://tascam.com/content/downloads/products/546/e_ta-1vp_om_va.pdf]http://tascam.com/content/downloads/products/546/e_ta-1vp_om_va.pdf ) is that you first choose the "Source" mic you're gonna be using (meaning the actual physical mic you're singing through) from a menu list that includes 14 of the most widely used mics (Shure, Audio Technica, Rode, etc). If your mic is not on the list, then you must choose from a list of "Generic" mic categories that includes: hand-held dynamic, studio dynamic, wireless, small diaphragm condenser and large diaphragm condenser... This is gonna serve as the basis upon which all the available models will be build, so once you choose the "right Source" mic you can go ahead and choose the model you wish to sound like. That being said, my dilemma is what "Source" mic am I supposed to choose on the TA-1VP if I'm using a XD-V75?... Considering that the XD-V75 is obviously not on the list of "Source" mics, then in theory I'm suppose to choose one from the "Generic" list... But should I choose hand-held dynamic or wireless? (considering the XD-V75 is actually both)... Another approach, since the XD-V75 is also a modeler, would be to choose the same mic on both the XD-V75's models and the TA-1VP "Source" list (for the example the Shure SM58)... I'm guessing that in this manner the "shape and color" of the signal coming from the XD-V75 should match what the TA-1VP is "expecting" to receive to build upon the chosen model... But then again this is still all being done through a wireless mic and instinct tells me that if the option for wireless exists on the "Generic" list, it's because the TA-1VP probably builds the model based on more than just the "shape and color" of the "Source" mic signal (maybe there are some characteristics on the mic's response that aren't carried through with a wireless signal?) Anyway, I want to figure this out before deciding to go ahead and buy something like the TA-1VP because my main goal is still to be able to use the XD-V75, so if the fact that it is wireless is going to be an issue for using the mic modeling feature of the TA-1VP, then I might just drop this whole idea and just get a simpler and cheaper mic pre... I'm certainly excited about all the things that the TA-1VP could probably help me achieve in my live rig in complement to the XD-V75 and would love to be able to just buy it and figure this all out myself by actually using it, but I'm afraid my budget is not enough to allow this experiment which is why I'll appreciate the wisdom on this forum to help me figure this one out! Cheers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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