Sakariz Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 Hello everyone ! I decided to buy a Helix few day ago, I had time to pratice it a bit since 1 week and I'm actually in search of a good tone for me ... But i'm still a noob with Helix ! So, I found in Line 6 CustomTone a preset that I love, but there is only for the rythmique, I can't add delay in snapshot to go for lead/solo tone ... All the delay bank are grey, and can't select any of them. Can you help me with this trouble ? I attached the preset. Thx ! My First TIme.hlx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverhead Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 When an FX block, like your delay, is greyed out and can’t be selected it means that the preset is close to the DSP limitation of the Helix and adding the FX block would exceed the limitation. Hence it can’t be added. In order to add the delay block you will first need to remove another block or blocks (thereby freeing up DSP capacity) until the desired delay block is not greyed out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakariz Posted April 24, 2020 Author Share Posted April 24, 2020 Oh ok, so that mean I won't be able to have this exact sound with only a delay in addition... its kinda sad :'( On anything I put out, this preset sound rly bad :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverhead Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 Not sure I understand. In your first post you said you love the preset, now you say it sounds really bad. Are you talking about the same preset? Can you explain what you mean by ‘on anything I put out’? Describe your setup. Are you using a regular guitar amp to receive your Helix output? Speakers or monitors? A PA system? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakariz Posted April 24, 2020 Author Share Posted April 24, 2020 I only use the helix with headphone actually. But in the preset I found, I love the tone. But in order to add a delay, as you said, I have to delete some blocks because of the DSP limitation. But if I delete one block, it sound rly bad. I don't know if you can check my preset, but if you find a solution to keep this sound and only add delay, it would be great ! Sorry if i'm not rly clear on what I say, i'm not english ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverhead Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 1 minute ago, Sakariz said: But in the preset I found, I love the tone. But in order to add a delay, as you said, I have to delete some blocks because of the DSP limitation. But if I delete one block, it sound rly bad. I don't know if you can check my preset, but if you find a solution to keep this sound and only add delay, it would be great ! ... Sounds like the block you chose to delete is one that greatly affects the tone. Have you tried deleting other blocks that might not have such an effect? I should have time to explore your preset later today and will get back to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakariz Posted April 24, 2020 Author Share Posted April 24, 2020 Yes, I tried, but it looks like they affect a lot the tone of this preset. And the thing is that there is two "line" in this preset, one with two amp + cab, and one with another amp+cab. Actually I can put delay on the second line, but it have 0 impact because this line is only used to make the sound more "bigger" with boost bass ect I guess. So the delay who result of this is useless in my opinion. The goal is to put delay in the first line, but yeah, I said, everything seems rly important for the tone here ... Thanks to take time to help me ! Its rly greatful ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverhead Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 Yes, this preset is very heavy on amp and cab blocks. They are critical to the sound which means they can't be deleted and they are also very heavy consumers of DSP. So there really isn't much DSP left after all those amps and cabs are included. However, I have a couple of observations: - Path 1 includes a noise gate and an EQ block at the end. If you remove the noise gate you will have several options of Delay blocks to add. If you also remove the EQ block you will have several more options. You already have an active noise gate in the Input block so this additional gate seems a bit redundant. Also to my ears the EQ block doesn't seem to make much difference to the overall tone. Then again I'm not a really high gain tone kind of guy so perhaps my ears are not a good judge. But it seems to me you probably can get what you want by removing these two blocks. You will be able to choose from all mono delay blocks except for two of them. You will have a few selections of stereo delay blocks available and also many in the Legacy section. Also, I notice in your preset that there is already a delay block in the first path. Are you wanting to add a second delay block? If so, and if removing the above blocks is not what you want to do, you might consider using snapshots to adjust the parameters of this delay block to achieve different delay effects in different snapshots. There is also sufficient DSP without removing any blocks to change this delay model to one of several other models. Perhaps a different model, using snapshots, can get you what you want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakariz Posted April 24, 2020 Author Share Posted April 24, 2020 Oh perfect, I'll try that ! I won't touch the delay in the path one, actually it is used to balanced the second cab and amp I guess, and when I change anything on it, the sound become terrible ^^ So, yeah, I'll see to delete the noise gate, it seems the better idea ! Thanks you a lot ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakariz Posted April 24, 2020 Author Share Posted April 24, 2020 Okay, so I tried it ! I have delete the EQ and Noise gate, and it was better without them ! So now I have my delay, and its perfect ! Thanks for your help ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverhead Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 Glad you got what you wanted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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