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Why is there Low Cut and High Cut in the "Reverb parameters"?  Do they function the same as they would in other
modeling applications?  And why does the reverb level affect the volume level of the guitar?

 

I really want to understand more of the features of the of the edit software...  not sure why Line 6 doesn't include this in the
manual... 

 

I see various vids on youtube... any one(s) in particular that could help flesh out the knowledge of this amp?

 

Thanks

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What manual ? Oh, you mean the PILOT'S Guide for the HARDWARE!

Somebody at L6 thought the Editor was so simple a caveman could figure it out. NOT!

 

OK, on a Reverb the high and low cuts allow you to fine tune the tone of the Reverberations.

The OUTPUT is the level of the signal coming out of the effect.

The MIX controls the amount of the EFFECT vs the DRY signal. Wet/Dry would make more sense to me, but nobody asked...

If you mix the effect higher than the dry signal it might make the signal sound quieter or vice versa. If so then you can use the LEVEL to compensate.

 

I don't watch many YT vids, half the time they're clueless.

 

Feel free to ask questions here!

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On 2/6/2024 at 11:44 PM, rd2rk said:

What manual ? Oh, you mean the PILOT'S Guide for the HARDWARE!

Somebody at L6 thought the Editor was so simple a caveman could figure it out. NOT!

 

OK, on a Reverb the high and low cuts allow you to fine tune the tone of the Reverberations.

The OUTPUT is the level of the signal coming out of the effect.

The MIX controls the amount of the EFFECT vs the DRY signal. Wet/Dry would make more sense to me, but nobody asked...

If you mix the effect higher than the dry signal it might make the signal sound quieter or vice versa. If so then you can use the LEVEL to compensate.

 

I don't watch many YT vids, half the time they're clueless.

 

Feel free to ask questions here!

 

 

Is it safe to say that settings that affect other L6 products concerning things like SAG, Hum, BIAS, BIAS x follow this logic:
Model Citizens » Blog Archive » Dave Hunter: What’s Behind the Sag, Bias, and Bias X Controls in Helix Amps? (line6.com)

 

I know that what sounds good/bad is subjective.  I play mostly high gain metal/hard rock.  I also use the clean channels extensively.

 

Cab sim

I have the Catalyst 200.  Will using the 2x12 give best results...  4x12 is a bit "boomy" sounding.

 

MIC types
Which are best for what styles of music?

 

Noise Gate
What do the Threshold/decay settings do/how should they be used?

 

How do knobs like Boost and presence affect the tone.

 

Thank you in advance for you help.  it's much appreciated.

 

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On 2/11/2024 at 1:58 PM, NC870 said:

Is it safe to say that settings that affect other L6 products concerning things like SAG, Hum, BIAS, BIAS x follow this logic:
Model Citizens » Blog Archive » Dave Hunter: What’s Behind the Sag, Bias, and Bias X Controls in Helix Amps? (line6.com)

 

Yes.

 

On 2/11/2024 at 1:58 PM, NC870 said:

I know that what sounds good/bad is subjective.  I play mostly high gain metal/hard rock.  I also use the clean channels extensively.

 

How many high-gain players do you know of who use open back cabs?

Most predominantly clean players use open back cabs.

 

To my ears, clean tones can sound good through closed back cabs, but high-gain not so much.

 

My personal compromise is to use a HR FRFR112 connected to the XLR Out and adjust the Channel Level (controls the signal to the FRFR) higher and MAIN (controls the level to the open back cab) depending on the emphasis I want. MIC, CAB and Channel Level can all be controlled using MIDI if you need to get down to the nitty gritty.

 

On 2/11/2024 at 1:58 PM, NC870 said:

Cab sim

I have the Catalyst 200.  Will using the 2x12 give best results...  4x12 is a bit "boomy" sounding.

 

MIC types
Which are best for what styles of music?

 

 

Experiment. Your ears are not my ears. When it sounds good TO YOU, it IS good!

 

On 2/11/2024 at 1:58 PM, NC870 said:

How do knobs like Boost and presence affect the tone.

 

BOOST comes before the preamp. It is not simply a gain control, it is custom designed for each amp:

 

Clarity - adds a tube stage with gentle clipping before the amp model

Aristocrat - adds a boutique boost pedal (Xotic EP Booster/Kinky Boost) before the amp

Carillon - adds a vintage-style treble booster (Dallas Rangemaster/Deranged Master) before the amp

Voltage - adds an extra tube gain stage

Kinetic - adds gain and eq mods to simulate classic amp mods

Oblovion - add a classic OD (SD-1/Stupor OD) before the amp

 

PRESENCE - affects the upper mid-range/treble response of the modeled power amp (not to be confused with the Class D Power amp that controls the ultimate output level)

 

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The XLR Out has a cab/mic simulation that can't be turned off. It is LINE LEVEL, so it requires an external amp+cab or powered speaker.

 

You could try closing the back of the cab, but I wouldn't seal it completely.

Closed back cabs (all cabs really) are designed for the speakers chosen by the OEM.

Closing the cab back completely could adversely affect speaker excursion.

However, I'm no expert in such matters.

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On 2/12/2024 at 1:58 PM, rd2rk said:

The XLR Out has a cab/mic simulation that can't be turned off. It is LINE LEVEL, so it requires an external amp+cab or powered speaker.

 

You could try closing the back of the cab, but I wouldn't seal it completely.

Closed back cabs (all cabs really) are designed for the speakers chosen by the OEM.

Closing the cab back completely could adversely affect speaker excursion.

However, I'm no expert in such matters.

 

 

ok, so those cab configs are only availble to me via line out... i thought the CAT was doing a "simulation" when i was playing through it straight...

 

No i would not block the back entirely... just thinking about the aspect to add some more tightness to the bass...

 

I've been breaking in the speakers  lately with some heavy bass, tech/house music...   I think alot of the complaints regarding the speaker
(any speaker) can be addressed by a good break in...  

 

Thank you for all your help
Nick

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