Helix Stadium x ML10x - Command Center Saving CC Values via Snapshots

[Rockobeall]

 

I am building this board with the Helix Stadium XL as the brain and a Morningstar ml10x loop switcher to use with some analog drive pedals as well.  What I am trying to figure out is how in command center I can program a footswitch on the Helix to turn on or off a loop of my morningstar ml10x and SAVE its state via snapshots.  I have gotten this to work on my HX Stomp but does not seem to be working with my new Helix Stadium XL.  

 

On the HX Stomp i got this to work by going into command center, selecting the footswitch I would like to control and creating a CC toggle on the Base channel sending cc#20 dim value 0 lit value 127 set to latching type.  I set this up in like 30 seconds and works like a charm saving my footswitch lit and dim states across all 3 of my snapshots. CC20 is what toggles the loops on and off on my ML10x fyi.

 

On the Helix, I have tried several different methods in order to get this to work.  The only way I have gotten scenes to save which loops I have turned on and off on my ML10x is by inputting values manually as instant commands but not via a footswitch.  The instant commands is also very cumbersome and not ideal for making edits on the fly.  Basically when you input the correct CC values on a footswitch it will indeed turn a loop on are off but will not save its state across the snapshots even when I have it set to “snapshot control.” Basically, if you turn it on the footswitch to its lit state it will show up lit in every snapshot and vis versa.  Not sure if this is a bug or if I am doing something wrong but it is indeed working on the HX Stomp which makes me think it is a bug on the new Helix Stadium.

 

Not sure if part of the Facebook group online but I made a few posts/videos that might be easier to under my issue. Here are the links to those.

 

Post 1: https://www.facebook.com/reel/870863375676309

 

 

Post 2: https://www.facebook.com/reel/2665412530483364

[jpdennis]

On 1/31/2026 at 3:40 PM, Rockobeall said:

 

 

I am building this board with the Helix Stadium XL as the brain and a Morningstar ml10x loop switcher to use with some analog drive pedals as well.  What I am trying to figure out is how in command center I can program a footswitch on the Helix to turn on or off a loop of my morningstar ml10x and SAVE its state via snapshots.  I have gotten this to work on my HX Stomp but does not seem to be working with my new Helix Stadium XL.  

 

On the HX Stomp i got this to work by going into command center, selecting the footswitch I would like to control and creating a CC toggle on the Base channel sending cc#20 dim value 0 lit value 127 set to latching type.  I set this up in like 30 seconds and works like a charm saving my footswitch lit and dim states across all 3 of my snapshots. CC20 is what toggles the loops on and off on my ML10x fyi.

 

On the Helix, I have tried several different methods in order to get this to work.  The only way I have gotten scenes to save which loops I have turned on and off on my ML10x is by inputting values manually as instant commands but not via a footswitch.  The instant commands is also very cumbersome and not ideal for making edits on the fly.  Basically when you input the correct CC values on a footswitch it will indeed turn a loop on are off but will not save its state across the snapshots even when I have it set to “snapshot control.” Basically, if you turn it on the footswitch to its lit state it will show up lit in every snapshot and vis versa.  Not sure if this is a bug or if I am doing something wrong but it is indeed working on the HX Stomp which makes me think it is a bug on the new Helix Stadium.

 

Not sure if part of the Facebook group online but I made a few posts/videos that might be easier to under my issue. Here are the links to those.

 

Post 1: https://www.facebook.com/reel/870863375676309

 

 

Post 2: https://www.facebook.com/reel/2665412530483364

 

Rockobeall,

 

I was working on something similar which does not use a footswitch.  Below is the thread I shared what I am trying which require one or more values to be controlled by snapshots.

 

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Now to address using the footswitch ... these of course will be a different CC# for you as well as possible values based on what your looper document suggests.

 

I know you want to use a footswitch and I am working on using a footswitch for the Shred value of my Mesa JP-2C.  I haven't had time to plug it in but in theory I add a primary setting to Shred off (CC#27 and value=10 for the off state) and a secondary MIDI command for Shred On (CC#27 and value 64) which can both be assigned to the same footswitch.  I press the unit once for on and the ring is lit.  I press it again for off and the ring is unlit.  I had to try this a few times to get the on state and ring lit state to work as I wanted and I am a little tired at this moment after a long day on my motorcycle build.  So I might have my "states" backwards.

 

Or I may have completely missed your point.  Let me know.

 

jpd