guitarbloke

Thank you so much, I knew it would be straightforward, just couldn't quite get my head around it!

I'd like to add an external boost (TC Spark Mini) pedal into the fx loop of my amp for a clean volume boost, but I'm already running my HX Stomp in 4CM. What's the best way to connect this? I'm getting myself a bit confused with all these cables lol (I know the Stomp is more than capable of boosting, but I'm already using all the switches and don't fancy tap dancing too much - plus the Spark has a latching switch feature which I use a lot) Thanks in advance!

Thanks again @rd2rk - the modded preset is great! The sound is still super harsh when going into the FOH, I just can't seem to dial it out, I've tried 3 different desks/PA systems (although I have to admit, none of them were particularly high end). I'm going to trial it at a gig on Friday and see how it performs - maybe that harshness will disappear in the full mix. I've still got a 10 day window to return it if I need to, but I'm hoping I don't have to because I really love the sound of it (when it isn't going into the desk).

Thanks @rd2rk! I'll try your modded version over the weekend (the fx loop block was in there from when I was hooking up in 4CM to my amp, but you're right, it's not needed anymore) I had tried to add the Suhr IR to the PC+ but it didn't seem to like the file - I'm guessing because it needed converting first, so thank you for that as well! I'll have a play with a PEQ on path B as well - that sounds like it would be a good option too Thank you for all your advice on this - you've been a huge help, and I feel like I'm finally close to getting this where it needs to be!

Thanks so much @rd2rk - I really appreciate your help with this! Here's the preset I tried - sounded nice with the PC set to 000 - Flat Stereo, but when I hooked up the PC to the desk, it sounded pretty terrible through the FOH speakers. I've included the IR as well (taken from my Suhr Reactive Load). Be great to get your opinion! Hard Rock.hlx Suhr V30 412 C Hi-Gn 121+57 Cel.wav

Thanks @rd2rk - Yeah I was on Preset 000 - Flat Stereo, and it sounded great just through the PC, but when I hooked it up to the desk, I turned down the volume on the PC and wandered out in front of the FOH speakers to hear that, and it just sounded really harsh and unpleasant - almost exactly like it does when you don't add an IR to a preset in the stomp and then try to use it through an FRFR speaker. I can't seem to figure out what I'm doing wrong. I'll try recording it and comparing

@rd2rk - Just a quick question for you - I used the PC212+ with my HX Stomp at rehearsal last night and I liked it a lot! However towards the end of the night I tried running the output from the PC to the desk as well, to see how that sounded through FOH. It sounded awful - really fizzy and nasty - almost as though there was no IR on it. The sound from the PC was still fine, so it was only through the FOH speakers. If I run my HX Stomp directly to the desk, it sounds fine, so I'm guessing maybe there's something I need to set on the PC? I had a look through the manual and the menus on the PC but couldn't seem to get it nailed. Any ideas?

Thanks so much for this @rd2rk! That's some great info to have - I'll be sure to get that output level set correctly before I start! I'll be using my PC with an HX stomp, so I guess I won't have to worry about the L6 Link bug (there's no L6 Link on the Stomp). I'm looking forward to finally being able to use the amp modelling though - I've spent the last 2 years using the Stomp with a traditional amp and cab in 4CM, so it's just been a glorified multi-fx unit! I can't wait to hear all those awesome amp tones! My band rehearsal is tonight so I'm going to get there an hour early and get to grips with the PC :-) Thanks again!

My Powercab 212+ just got delivered today but I won't be able to try it out (I'm in the middle of moving house) until my next band rehearsal in a few days time. So I've been watching as many videos on it as I can, and reading as much as possible on the forums so I have a rough idea what I'm doing when I finally get to use it. I was just wondering - What are some things you guys wish you'd known before you first plugged into the PC212+? Any golden first time setup tips? I'm seeing a lot of people saying that they were disappointed with the PC sounding muffled, so that's a slight concern!

@themetallikid Thanks so much for posting that! A board like this would be ideal, but unfortunately I also have to squeeze that pesky vocal unit on there as well (that's another 14" x 8.5") :(

The Stomp XL would be really nice due to the much smaller footprint, but I keep being drawn back to the idea of the Helix Floor for 2 main reasons: (I guess this is the point where I find out I want it for all the wrong reasons!) - So I can easily send one signal with an IR to the desk, and one without an IR to my amp+cab. - The additional DSP would be really handy so I can use effects like the Poly Capo and then lose the Digitech Drop from my rig.

@rd2rk @DunedinDragon - thanks guys. The idea of MIDI has always been (and still is!) a bit daunting to me, but maybe it's time I started looking into it as an option. @themetallikid - I'd be really interested to see a pic of your board man, it sounds like the kind of setup I had in my head!

Hey folks, I'm considering stepping from the HX Stomp to a Helix Floor. but the huge footprint is bothering me slightly. At the moment I use a Pedaltrain 2 which contains my HX Stomp, 2 overdrives, Digitech Drop, Dunlop mini volume pedal, and a Voicelive 3 Extreme. If I need to add a talkbox for a gig, then sometimes I'll switch out the Voicelive 3 for a Voicelive Play which is much smaller. I'm lead singer in my band and we play small-ish venues so floor space is pretty much at a premium - plus whatever I use has to be right next to my mic stand. The Pedaltrain 2 is about as much space as I can get at most gigs. If I go to a Helix Floor, that would be the exact same size as the Pedaltrain, but without the vocal unit - which I do need. Is anyone using a 2-tier pedalboard to get around issues like this? Does it negatively impact the use of the Helix since part (or all?) of the screen will be obscured. Any recommendations to which boards are worth looking at? There's no point me going to a Helix LT as even though it's a smaller footprint than the Floor, it's not enough to make any difference. Not really sure what to do, but all I know is I am GASsing for a full Helix!

@lou-kash you have been beyond helpful - thank you so much! This now makes a lot more sense to me!!

Thanks a lot @lou-kash, I'm so sorry if these are really basic questions, I'm getting old and this is all pretty new to me, so it's a bit of a learning curve lol! So... if I put the Send on the A path - like this and then set the Send and the Dry Thru levels to 0db, would that mean that I wouldn't necessarily need to use a B path at all? If that's the case, how do I make sure that the IR only goes to the FOH? I'm only using mono effects. Is there a benefit to putting the effects on a B path in my situation? (Delay and reverb will be on all the time). I don't need to do anything too crazy haha, I just need FOH and the stage cab to have effects - but IR only on FOH :-)