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Hi guys, I just recorded a little groove on both firmwares. I played a gig over the weekend and this guy walked up to me saying he had a variax 89 and wanted to know what pedals I was using. I showed him I simply plug direct into the mixer with some reverb he was like.......WTF?? Then I told him I was still on firmware 1.71 and he urged me to record a little comparison and email it over as he wanted to try to replicate the settings . I emailed him some strumming stuff on both firmware. Oh also shall I mention that he has a Pod Hd? I just decided to record and post it here the groove I was jamming on that night. It is very simple groove which I just learned from Kevin Davis Ban Caribe, check them out they got so much soul and sabor!! Most times I play using the E and A strings one octave down on the acoustic and that's how I was playing that night. Anyway on this recording I started with firmware 1.71 and I have 5 acoustic sounds. from 00;00 - 01:44 From 01:49 are all my acoustic sounds that I have on HD I've tweaked some sounds on HD so I have 7 banks. The 12 string guitars have only 6 strings on both firmware. The HD firmware sometimes makes it uncomfortable to play (for me) ,as I hear and you will hear too this sometimes harsh sound even though I tried to maintain the same way playing through the loop, not plucking too hard. I really dislike and sometimes wonder how line 6 technicians managed to make the low strings and octave down sound worst on HD. As you can hear they are clearly scooped out, even the highs sounds are rolled off. Ok The only useable selection to ME on HD is the one on 03:54 . I love the octave down on firmware 1.71! I recorded this in real time and tried to keep the same tempo and sometimes shifting/rushing the tempo can be inevitable, sorry . . http://www.4shared.com/mp3/z4UMU_aTce/VARIAX_JT69S_FIRMWARE_COMPARIS.html (This recording is not a demonstration of my playing ) No Eq or amplifier was used , total flat. The recording was done straight into Cubase with a touch of reverb. Also my new discovery doing this tests was between re-flashing from 1.71 to hd 2.10 I kept playing the guitar thinking of what to record. All of sudden the sound cut off and only the piezos. I repeat only the pure piezo was audible. And I was like Wow..... they sounded different and even more normal sounding, no steroids whatsoever. Of course it lasted for about a minute as the guitar wass updating itself then it cuts off to no sounds. But this little experience made me wonder , how nice it would be to have access to the pure organic piezo sound with no steroids and then be able work on workbench from there. here is the recording , and soon I will record something using that awesome piezo sound while is re-flashing. This guitar as so many simple expandability and profitable possibilities to line 6 that it is ridiculous how limited I find myself with HD. Anyway it is just my opinion, I hope they still have they heart on it though.

Also I just want to take the time here and thank the person who started this post. As I was in search for a guitar that I could have the E and A down an octave ....and someone in another forum recommended the Variax JTV. As I sing and play guitar, sometimes solo but and often as duo with a percussionist. I was using the Boss ultra octave with the range set on E A strings an octave ( Before I got the JTV) . The variax does much better job on drop tuning, hands down!! Ok ....So......When I got the variax. I was hooked, loved doing what guitarists do. It came with firmware 2.10 Things I did straight after: Installed 2 extra springs at the back in order to hold the bridge flat. I do not need a tremolo ( I don’t play metal nor Rock). I reset the saddles for intonation purpose and put on 0.12 strings gauge ( Addario pure nickel) . With thicker strings my drop tuning ( E/A oct) sounded much better less warbler/vibration. My findings after hours doing what guitarists do ( doddling solos etc) was that the acoustic bank sounded great with lots of balls for ; solos, finger picking and maybe gently soft –plucking. But when I actually started practising the material I really needed for gigs and singing while playing .......all that illusive magic started fading. Too much mid on the acoustic models (2.10) unsuitable for my style of plucking and strumming. My set up is very simple, guitar straight into the mixer with a little of reverb...... So immediately I had to roll back the mids (9 oclock), add highs (3 oclock) and bass ( 2 oclock) When using my drop tuning ( E and A string oct down) the acoustic d28 and j 200 were useless to me, their low ends were scooped out. Only the Acoustic J sounds ok for my style, but still needed more highs/lows and roll of mids. The acoustic tones on firmware 1.71 sounds fits my self-accompanying needs perfectly. It has just the right amount of mids, highs and lows, just beautiful. Now I can actually just plug straight into a mixer or even a power speaker and the acoustic tones actually will sounds like the acoustic guitar you hear in a songwriters performing in club. A clean piezo sound without quack and mid steroids. Also the tone knob actually works!! It changes the character of the acoustics, try it! . For instance I have tweaked my acoustics now that I have 5 totally different acoustic tones (6 strings) on my custom bank 2 and different 4 combination of 12s. How? ....disable the parallel pitch of the 12 strings and you get a new guitar( workbench 1.75) And the best news for me is when using drop tuning ( E/A octave) they sound almost like a bass in all acc models. . However this could be so much better if it could be done within Hd world. I hope line 6 will finally listen and include all old models in the nexd Hd update. Or better still Why not make it a paid update? Technicians will spend days/hours reworking the data. A workbench plus is in much need as users are now craving to swap new models with old ones and vice versa. For instance some electric models I would totally erase from my guitar so I can upload more acoustic for my needs. Also the inclusion of parameters allowing adjusts to the body, mic positioning, ambiance, etc would be awesome and an absolute win win for al since it is a paid update l!!

Ok, I must confess I just goat a JTV 69s and after playing it and loving the option to blend the mags with the modelling. I started wondering with the acoustic, because of my style of playing ( latin, bossa-nova , samba, no flamenco please I hate flamenco) I noticed that they had heap of middle boost which I had to cut on the mixer console. So I searched around on google for a solution ( I don't have a pod hd and will not buy one) and found this thread. I downgraded to 1.7 and could not be happier. The old acoustics are much simpler and suits my playing best. Its a shame though. I loved the workbench HD and also blending with the mags . I have even ordered a dimarzio set area 58,67,61 do I can get rid of 60hm hums. I hope line 6 will port the old sounds across and give us the option to mix and swap in future hd updates. As I'm sure some of us don't need and will never really use on a gig on some of the sounds in there. So given users the opportunity to upload to individuals need would make it a win win situation.