DaveLeeNC

Has some interesting discussions regarding latency. dave

If I disconnected the speakers and set up a HD500x with no effects, no AMP, no controllers, and a neutral mixer, does this simply become one of the biggest and most expensive DI boxes on the planet? Or would the output from the sound card to the USB port be different vs. something like a Scarlett Solo DI (other than the fact that they obviously do not have identical ADC's)? Another question is how much latency (5ms, 50 ms, etc ...) can a system have before a person playing guitar really notices that the sound is not in sync with his/her playing? dave

@hurghanico Regarding BSOD's, I am still suspicious of user error here (specifically not giving the system enough time to respond to shutting down the Editor). If not I will try your suggestion. dave

@hurghanicoThanks for the additional clarifications. And to answer my own question (in the context of Volume control), I believe that if you have settings established by the editor and then shut down the editor and then you shut down the HD500x (do not touch any controls), then bring up the HD500x (do not touch the controls) followed by the editor, then the editor 'owns' the settings. But in the same scenario if the HD500X was the device that set the volume when you shut down the editor/DH500x, then the device volume setting controls the initial state of the device. At least I think that is what I am seeing here. It is a tough experimental environment for me as either I am way more careless than I think I am, or I do not yet have control of HD500X driven BSOD's. dave

.. and just to complete this discussion, when you bring up the editor which volume control is effective? I am guessing that the editor settings, but just to be sure. dave

@hurghanicoThanks for the very helpful clarification. I would have been confused on that point. dave

Got it. It was not my expectation but makes perfect sense. Thanks! dave

This is kind of a basic question, but I am unclear on this (as virtually all my interfacing with the HD500X is through the editor). How exactly does (for example) the Volume knob on the HD500X hardware relate to the virtual volume knob in the editor? Are they kind of multiplied together to get a final setting - in that case 25% on the hardware and 75% on the software volume knobs respectively would have the same result as 75% on the hardware and 25% in the software. And the same question for the other hardware control knobs - thanks. dave

@silverhead my question and your answer reveals how little I know about this stuff. Thanks again. dave

The problem with the JBL's is that they are too big to fit on my (kinda' small) desktop. And their current placement in the room is far from optimum and I don't have a good alternative here that works from my spouse's perspective (room does duty as my office and a guest bedroom). I could do as you suggest and exclusively use the HD500X as an input/output sound card. But my sense of things is that my external DAC's (particularly the IFI DAC) is better for critical listening. SO I am trying out alternatives here (including better speakers that would fit on my desktop or a way to better control routing which includes the HD500X). One solution that I have tried is to use the free version of Amplitube as a router where I would route the HD500X sound card output to Amplitube and use Amplitube to route the output. I have not yet been able to make that work and, quite frankly, have not yet been able to make Amplitube do anything useful. And thanks for the info on ASIO4ALL. I did not know that it is not fully ASIO compliant. That might explain some of my problems. Do you happen to know if REAPER is fully ASIO compliant? dave

@hurghanico FWIW, on my Dell XPS desktop computer, if I disconnect the POD and my USB mic and go to sound settings, I have NO CHOICES regarding settings (no input devices found). So I will have to take extra steps here (like create a default input). Thanks again for the help. dave

I have a Windows 10 desktop and a (rarely used but maybe that will change) HD500X. My system has 2 USB DAC's. One (Dragonfly Red) drives a pair of so-so quality desktop speakers and the other (IFI Nano Black) drives Sennheiser 650 headphones and in my current system LINE OUT goes to the mp3 input of the HD500x. The HD500x then drives a pair of JB LSR305's. This way I can listen to music through either the desktop speakers or the JBL's (turn on the HD500x and direct output to the IFI Nano. And I can record easily using the HD500X as my input sound card. What I cannot do (easily) is to simply play (in realtime) my guitar through the HD500X and output that to my desktop speakers (which I would upgrade if I could do this). Maybe there is some bring up Audacity and set it up in loopback recording mode solution (not sure if that works or if latency would be an issue). But is there a simple/straight forward way to do this? Thanks. dave

I believe that @hurghanico has explained the bulk of my problems here. I had never considered this, but my basic system setup has NO INPUTS. So once the HD500X was connected it was instantly selected as the system INPUT (re: Sound Settings). For now I have permanently connected an IRIG UA to one on my USB ports and my HD500X is no longer the selected INPUT. I kind of messed around for 15 minutes this morning without any issues. Thanks again! dave ps. I know that prior to this change I encountered at least one Blue Screen where I was doing nothing but changing the volume of an Amp. But my HD500X has gone from unless to useful with this one change.

@hurghanico Thanks for the very logical and helpful input. It gives me some structure around which to build some experiments. Very much appreciated. dave

I have just migrated a seldom used HD500x POD device to a new Windows 10 desktop computer. I am having persistent 'Blue Screen of Death' events (Windows ends, collects data, and then restarts). I have probably encountered 6-8 of these in the last 24 hours. They happen when I remove the USB cable, or maybe turn the device off, or possibly change a setting in the POD Editor, etc. They are not predictable other than I have not yet 'messed around' with the settings/etc for more than a couple minutes without encountering a fatal Windows error. I do get a code from Windows that comes up on the blue screen that I have not yet been able to capture before it goes away. And Line6 Monkey does not recognize that this device is attached, if that matters. I have seen this happen when the Editor was running and also when not running (in the latter case Windows aborted when I turned off the HD500x). Is this scenario common? From my earlier days I recall that you had to be REALLY careful with the order of shutdown/disconnect of the HD500X if the editor was running, but this is far worse than that. Have others experienced this and any clues as to what might be going on here (other than yet another proof that the Windows Audio system is not so great). Thanks. dave

What exactly does a 'Global Reset' do and not do? Thanks, dave

@stormstudios Thanks - I had run into this before and rejected it (jackaudio.org) based on its description which is "basic infrastructure for audio applications to communicate with each other and with hardware ...". I had rejected that simply because that is not my problem. I actually don't have any software that needs to either send or receive audio information. I have two sound cards/drivers separated by an OS and I need to find software (or maybe an OS path) that will allow one to drive the other. I have a input sound card that would be happy to tell someone what it is doing, but I don't have that software installed (and am looking for it). And kind of the reverse case for the output side. What exactly are you doing with Soundflower? Soundflower appears to be solving a similar problem (re:jackaudio). If I don't hear back from IKMedia (Amplitube) today I am going to go looking for another free amp simulator to try as a solution to this problem. dave

FWIW, the best solution that I have come up with so far is to run the free version of Amplitube with no effects or cab's or anything else and to take input from the HD500x sound card. Then use Amplitube to select the output path. I would think that would work but so far I have been completely unable to get Amplitube 5 to accept input of any kind (or even to configure to accept input of any kind). Frustrating. dave

@silverhead thanks for the very helpful clarification. dave

This is a question related to this thread. There is an AUX input and an mp3 input on the HD500x. I assume that the difference between these 2 is just a statement of expected voltage levels and impedance levels. Is that right? And when you see a device with 'Line Out' which of those 2 would you expect to best match? Also I assume that both of these inputs just go directly to the output (mixed with whatever the POD is doing) and there is no sampling, conversion to digital and back stuff going on. Is my assumption correct here? I was a casual (very) user a number of years ago and am just now getting my HD500X back out of the closet. dave

In my Windows 10 desktop computer setup I have two (USB attached) DAC/Amplifiers set up. One drives a pair of desktop speakers and the other drives a pair of (slightly larger and in a different place) monitor speakers and also serves as my headphone amplifier. I would like to be able to route HD500X sound to either of these output paths just like I do with music player software on my desktop computer. Maybe I want to hear through the desktop speakers, maybe the headphones, maybe the bigger speakers, etc. I can certainly point to the HD500X as my input (like when recording in Audacity). What is the most efficient way to just route what comes out of the HD500X (and into my desktop computer) to either of the two USB DAC's. I think that there is a recording loopback way to do that in Audacity (have not tried it), but that seems awkward, possibly with latency issues, and just not convenient. What is the best way to do that? Thanks. dave

@silverhead- thanks, that is helpful. I have been away from amplified guitar for a couple years now (classical guitar instead) and am now considering re-entering the electric guitar world. I have not touched the 500X since probably early 2019. I would like to reset the device to only the factory presets and dump all that crap that I had been doing that didn't work well anyway. I understand that if I push the left arrow (and hold) and then power on the device, I will accomplish this. If I do that will I end up with the latest (not that late, I realize) firmware? dave

Thanks - that does work. I am not sure where I got the idea that this had to be done through Monkey. So I don't know if I care if Monkey works or not - any opinions on that out there? I don't have any other Line 6 devices at the moment. dave

I had a HD500X tied to an old laptop that is no longer functional (mostly). I have deauthorized (via license manager running on my new system and an associated action on my ACCOUNT) that installation. The process seems to have been successful. Windows 10 sees the HD500x in sound settings, so that seems to be working. But Line6Monkey does not detect the device. So I cannot get the Edit software installed on my new system (I think that this is done via Monkey). What else do I need to do here? Thanks. dave

OK - I hereby declare myself to be a finalist for "Dunce of the Decade". The HD500X has a CD/MP3 player input. Duh ........... dave