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Thanks for this... The funny thing is that for many of his amps, I don't remember if the Marshall is one, he doesn't use the amp model. He uses like a JC-120 and somehow makes it sound like a Marshall, or other amp... He does a lot with IRs.. but when I tell you his Marshall patch not only sounds like a Marshall, but it also "Feels" like a Marshall on your fingers...

See, the last two folks gave very useful responses! Thanks!

I ended up buying his package that included all of his patches. I figured if I paid all this money for the Helix, might as well buy these awesome patches too. But it is in his Helix/Helix LT Boutique Amps Simulation Patches Volume I

Ok Folks. It seems like some folks are trying to be helpful and others are quite defensive... Let me say a few things first and then re-phrase my question or statement. I am not a Helix Hater. I am not and Axe guy. I am not someone looking to bash the Helix in any way. I thought positive enough about it to put my money down and buy one. If you work for Line 6, I know you guys work hard to produce a great product. I am NOT knocking you hard work at all. What I am doing is either giving Constructive Criticism OR asking What am I doing wrong. So, Let me Rephrase: If I take a Marshall Plexi and throw it on top of a Marshall 4x12 with Green Backs or even G12T75 Speakers in it, plug my Les Paul into the Bright input and play it, A noise comes out of the box. All I may need to tweak is Volumes, Bass, Middle, Treble, Presence. For Reference, That Noise is a lot like Glenn's Patch (which I posted a video to) and MG Blade's Video, But that is for Reference, so you know the sound I am talking about. That being said, I think it is a reasonable expectation to be able to put the same virtual amp/cab up in helix, set similar settings ( Volumes, Bass, Middle, etc) and get a somewhat similar sound. One person said in this thread that Glenn tweaked his patch 8 way to Sunday... The point I am making is it shouldn't take more than plopping an amp down and setting the standard settings to get a similar sound as the real thing. Yeah, I know there is a Microphone involved too. That is also taken into account. That being said, I am hopeful that someone at Helix (or even a user) says either: 1) Well, you might get better success by doing this or that ( ie, change some parameter somewhere like eq response, etc) or 2) You know what? You gave us something to think about and thank you for your input. perhaps because of it, 2.60 may have even better patches.

Here is Glenn's Patch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NieNquUz0iI

He is doing all kinds of stuff with IRs.. It is definitely not just putting stock components up and setting parameters. I guess Listen to that patch on YouTube. Or even listen to other patch posted in a video in this thread. Try to get that sound with stock stuff.

Like I said, the one that Glenn made sounds great. The one in the video MGBlade posted is almost as great. Unless I am doing something wrong, the stock ones don't sound like that. Maybe I have to do some tweaking to EQ, but it should sound like that "out of the box", No?

That is Awesome, but I think Glenn's patch is still better. That video must have an IR or something for the Speaker. Sounds like not the stock cabs.

Yes, this is true about any 2 amps... But, I think most of the time (speakers included) that old amps don't sound the same as when they were new. Components wear out. etc. Greenbacks are an example too. The new Greenbacks sound like the Old ones did when they were new.

Agreed, but I bought his patch and is actually sounds better than the video. To me, this patch is what convinced me to buy the helix.

Hello All, I notice that a lot of people seem to complain about a New Marshall in an update. I am not one of those people. I love Marshalls. Bring them all on... But... Having worked for Marshall in the past for several years and literally playing through thousands of amplifiers... Most of the Plexi Marshalls (and I have owned some and restored several) that are modeled in the Helix don't sound to me like Marshalls, or accurate Marshalls. I have purchased a Marshall 1959 patch from Glenn Delaune. To me, that sounds pretty much exactly like a Marshall Plexi. Listen to them. Glenn has a video on YouTube to hear. So my question is: Why do the Models not sound close to what Glenn made with his patch? I would think it should be in the ball park. Right? Unless I am doing something wrong. I am wondering if the amps that are being used to Model are in disrepair, need new caps, etc. I am not trying to bash the Helix at all. I love it. I REALLY Love it. Just trying to give some honest input to make it better.

I think if you are listening to the presets, you will be Un-Impressed. I was.... But when you start making your own patches and messing with IRs (check the Allure Pack) you will be blown away. I purchased some patches from a guy named Glenn Dulane. Those are awesome... His 1959SLP alone is worth the price of the Helix.

Yes, Thank You

Well, I would like to see an amp I designed in the Helix.... But, If I can't get that, give me a Marshall 2205/10, later revision (There were 2 of them, the one with the Chip on the main board is the later one) with EL-34 Tubes.