jrioux

“No. No, I definitely still plan to equalize the patch volumes.”

No. No, I definitely still plan to equalize the patch volumes. I was just observing that my own ability to work my patches out so that I hear them correctly is (fortunately) not the crucial thing, as my monitor’s sounds are not the ones that make it to the audience.

Thanks, you two. I've been amazed at how little effect my 'own' monitor has beyond my own space on stage. Here I was, thinking I must be drowning out everything the others are playing and yet, when I walked just a few steps away from the speaker, I could hardly hear myself. Luckily, what I hear is not necessarily what the sound guy will present to the audience!

Worked for me, too.

Great. Sounds do-able.

When you say "use it as a reference to set the volume of all other patches, clean ones and in particular distorted ones", do you mean " use the numbers of the acceptable clean patch to set the numbers for the other patches", or "use your ears and listen to the clean, then the patch to be adjusted, then the clean--back-and-forth--until they are equally loud"?

Given that the patches I plan to use in live performance model different amps, with different settings, and there are different effects, with their own settings, and so on, how does one work it out that the sound coming to the FRFR (my monitor) is at about the same level. I know the sound guy is taking my signal and sending it out to the PA at good volumes, but some of my patches end up being (or at least sounding) louder than others. Is there an easy way to make sure I'll hear myself adequately, but not too loudly, through my monitors, or should I just check the decibel level of the sound coming out for each, and adjust accordingly?

Very helpful. It took a while to wrap my head around it... so, if I'm getting it now, output modes other than Studio/Direct are used only when we model amps through amps.

For some reason, I can't post a graphic of my desired setup. Here's the setup in text. Channel 'A' is the 4-cable, channel B bypasses the amp. Both channels end up at my FRFR and then out to the PA. Do you think this will work? Optimally, as I now understand it, I will need to manually switch the output mode from Studio/Direct (when using channel 'B') to one of the 'amp' modes (when selecting channel 'A'). guitar-->tuner-->POD in-->POD SEND-->AMP IN-->AMP SEND-->POD RETURN-->--POD OUT L-->AMP RETURN-->CAB-->MIC-->A (A/B switch)-->Head Rush-->PA -->POD OUT R-->B (A/B switch)-->Head Rush-->PA

Ditto.

OK. I want to be sure I have this right. I plan to either send my signal (with amp modeling) directly to an FRFR, or send it (without amp modeling) into my amp, micing the amp, and running that into a FRFR. Either way, you're saying, I would use "Studio/Direct" as an output mode? I am very new to this, but don't we leave modeling out when using 4CM precisely because there's a real amp down the line?

kmoed said: "Not sure I could see a practical application for switching output modes , How many scenarios can you have where you need to switch your output on the fly? If your playing live, your setup for your live rig, in the studio and going direct, setup for direct." Given all the discussion of FRFRs and 4-cable setups, isn't it inevitable that someone (like me, for example) might want to use an FRFR with amp modeling for one song (or group of songs) and then take advantage of a real amp for another? Live performance doesn't have to be an "either/or". Best of both worlds. But, alas, as far as I can see, it cannot be done using a non-DT amp.

...which you think would be better to do, right?

Consistent error: -200.

Hmm. It will not allow me to upload my setup...