JustTsuki

From the mixer block on the Helix. For leads I keep both cabs centered, which I can do on the Go by keeping the output block centered: For the doubled parts I push myself right and the output block of the Go left: And when the other guy is doing lead, I spread the two amps to the sides: The last one results in a lower overall volume, because the two cabs aren't mixing together and I think it leaves a nice space for the other guitar. I'll see if the pan pedals are available in the Go and if I can get them to work, if that doesn't really get a similar result to the Helix, I guess I'll have him keep the output centered and just throw a little volume cut.

I'm using a Helix for all my live sounds and I've recently started experimenting with setting up my pan in the Helix itself so I don't have to rely on the sound guys to do it. I'm using two cabinets on all my presets and I pan them hard left and right and then I use the output block for my overall panning. So based on parts of the songs, I've got my main output from the Helix going either fully to the right for harmony & doubled parts, dead center for lead, and hard left-right for when I'm the rhythm guitar and the other guy is doin lead. Is there a way to achieve this on the other guitarist's rig? He uses a POD Go and I've been able to set up the centered lead and the full left for harmony and doubled parts, but I can't figure out if it's possible to split his signal left-right the way I do with the Helix? On my rig it's different from keeping both cabs centered and lowering the volume, since if they're hard left-right they don't mix together, but since he has only one cab would a centered sound with a volume cut be the way to go? Ideally I want to be able to push his sound very wide and in the background so there is space for it but it doesn't fight with my lead in the center.

Spent a couple of days playing around with different things, thanks @codamedia for suggesting the Tilt EQ, really helps shape the sound. Once I was happy with a tone I tried changing the EQ mode on the sound system and immediatelly everything went to crap. I guess I am spending a lot in fighting against that EQ constantly, so the next step is absolutelly getting a nice pair of speakers. I've started looking around, so far I think I am leaning towards the Yamaha Studio&PA HS5. From reviews people seem pretty happy with them and the price is great. I see they've got a high shelf/cut and a low cut, but those can be bypassed. Additionally, I migth make use of the XLRs and run the Helix directly into the speakers, skipping the Scarlett, as I've noticed that my signal is quite noisy with the Helix just turned on (my guess would be messy power, since all my PC stuff run from the same outlet). Thanks again for all your help and suggestions.

Unfortunatelly, there is no way to bypass them. And on top of that, just from PC audio I've noticed there is either a gate or some type of compression, as small bursts of sound get cut off. It feels a bit like an autoswell or something. I did spend 4-5 hours tinkering with trying to get a tone for a specific song. Nailed the cleans with just a nice selection of cabs and mics, distortion snapshots are still a work in progress, but I've definitelly made some progress. I guess I'll look into getting a pair of studio speakers to run off of the scarlet for the guitar and the sound system can go back in the audio output on the PC for everything else.

Thanks for the replies guys. That's exactly where I started, trying to follow his 'Create a Great Tone' series. I found a lot of the differences and lack of understanding on my part in the video where he was exploring putting effects before the amp block. Around 8:30 he has just an amp block and a distortion pedal that he moved before or after. I know that I'm not going to get the same results, be it because of the different guitar, youtube compression, or all the other things that might effect how I hear his tone and mine through the same speakers. But with having the pedal in pre or post I got the same sound, similar to his when the pedal was in post (actually that is a good representation of the tone I am getting with everything). This is a part of what first got me thinking that maybe my inexperience wasn't the whole problem. I haven't ever tried to mic up a real amp and see how that goes, though I know some stuff in theory (mostly from the Andertons channel and how they mic up). I'll give the Tilt EQ a try and I'll probably try to start off with a single cab (I was trying to do the blended split path with 2 different mics on each side).

I haven't done that yet, will try as soon as I can and get back to you with my results.

Hello everyone, Recently I picked up a Helix lt to replace my old Boss ME-25. I tried a couple of processors in the same price bucket, with a pair of studio headphones the guys at the store gave me and a pair of Marshall headphones. Afterwards, at home I'd use it without a cab block, running the output in an old valve amp. Unfortunatelly, the amp died and I'm unable to get it fixed, due to the current situation. This is where my problems with the sound start. I picked up a Scarlett 2i2 and I'm running that into a 5.1 system I use for my PC audio. Helix patches have stayed the same, just added some cab blocks to match the amp models I am using. Everything hotter than a mild crunch sounds like a badly dialed Metalzone. There is a lot of noise and a mid-high fuzz that is predominent in all tones. I've changed cables, tried going out through XLR vs 1/4, tried adding an EQ at the end of the patch to cut out the bad frequencies. At first I was convinced that I'm just bad at making a tone, so I followed a couple of videos on how to get a nice tone, but copying the settings off of those produced the same muddy mess as when I was doing it on my own. So I went back to have a look at the factory patches and, sure enough, all of them sound like crap too. Is it the speakers that are killing the sound, or am I missing some setting in either the Helix or the Scarlett?