boynigel

it took me nearly 10 years to adopt snapshots, mainly out of laziness/stuck in my ways, but when i finally did there was no going back. makes life SO much easier!

i already had snapshot set to On for each one. in addition i also set State and Wait Time to Snapshot On. it's buggy. for example if i switch from a preset that's working fine, to one preset in particular, when it loads the preset, it changes my amp to a channel that isn't even assigned on any of my snapshots w/in that preset! Then i'll go to another preset and the original problem prevails, ie- when the preset loads, the amp will be on the wrong channel but as soon as i hit the snapshot foot switch, it goes to the intended/assigned channel. and yet i can switch between other presets with zero issues. i'm wondering if this a "bug" that i should report to Line 6? unless i SHOULDN'T have set State and Wait Time to Snapshot On...except there are presets that work just fine this way.

Here's a weird thing about that- when i use the helix going into an amp's effects loop return (power amp in), i've found that the amp model w/power amp sounds better than just the preamp model. go figure- a modeled power amp into a physical power amp sounds better. way better. well, at least on my Bad Cat. maybe different amps would yield a different result. makes sense. too bad they didn't do a couple AIAB models just for the sake of the people using the HX Effects unit, which could then be carried over to Helix. won't hold my breath on that one though. My benchmark had always been the Wampler Ace-Thirty/Thirty Something, which i sold, and then a few years later bought another which didn't sound as good as i'd remembered. i don't know if that's because my ears changed or maybe the bad one got messed with by a previous owner.

so, w/4cm, as you know, you need to assign an effects loop block in helix in order to have some stomp blocks before, and some after the amp's effects loop. what i was saying was that i tried the amp block both in front of, and after the actual amp's effects loop. but of course at the end of the day the guitar's original signal is still seen by the amp's input, even if the amp model is after the amp's effects loop. pretty sure i'm doing 4cm correctly ;)

Yes, Helix has actual models of Vox and Vox-styled amps, but this is for situation where i'm using it just for effects and to control my tube amp via 4cm. Last night i tried to do this using actual amp models. i got close, but not 100% satisfied like i'd be with a Wampler Ace 30 or other AIAB pedal (which i'd rather not have to add to my setup). I tried placing the amp model both before and after my amp's effects loop in effort take my amp's preamp out of the equation as much as possible, which of course you never really can w/4cm as my guitar signal is always going to hit the amp's preamp. anyway, i ran out of time and went to bed. Now sitting here at work i'm thinking maybe i could try achieving this tone, specifically that chimey-edge of breakup, via one of the distortion/OD blocks? Has anyone tried this? If so, which models should i try first? I'm thinking Timah and Tone Sovereign might be good starting points but figured i'd see if/how anyone else has been able to pull this specific tone off.

probably a global setting somewhere. i'll figure it out, thanks again.

Hey, that worked! thanks so much! weird that i didn't have to do that w/my LT. there's just one small issue remaining, maybe you have a fix this as well? when i bring up a new preset, the amp is hanging on to the channel that it was on in the last preset. this means that whenever i change presets, i have to hit my Snapshot 1 button to get the correct amp channel...unless by coincidence the desired channel happens to be the one that was on in the last preset used.

okay i'll give that a try. in the meantime i added a video to my original post that may better explain/show exactly what's happening

i'll try it, but could you clarify "single commands"? maybe that's where i'm getting into trouble.

update. i've gotten closer, but still not there. these settings have helped: Here are my new settings in Command Center: Suhr channel 1 (clean) = C+D Close Suhr channel 2 (crunch) = C (Tip) Open Suhr channel 3 (lead) = C+D Open This works fine, until i try switching from channel 3 (lead) to 2 (crunch). Now when i try going from channel 3 lead, to channel 2 crunch, it stays on channel 3 even though i'm on a snapshot that's set up to give me channel 2. but...if i go from channel 3 (lead) to channel one (clean) first, then i can get to channel 2 on the amp. So in short, if i'm on channel 3 and want to get back to 2, the only way is to go to 1 first, otherwise it gets stuck on channel 3. What makes even LESS sense, is that if i go to another preset and assign everything the same via command center as outlined above, i can't get channel 2 on my amp to actuate, period. Ugh.

Using snapshots, this worked perfectly with my LT. To engage my amp's clean channel, via Command Center, i'd "Select: None", for the crunch channel, i'd "Select: 1 (Tip)", and for the lead channel, "Select: 1 and 2" in Command Center. Wayyy more complicated w/the Stadium XL. through much trial and error, given that i'm hooked up to the Suhr via the Control C/D jack, i found that when I: Select: C (Tip), State: Closed gives me my clean channel Select: C (Tip), State: Open gives me my crunch channel great, but now to get it to switch to the lead channel of the Suhr... which is where it gets weird. i discovered that if i set it as: "Select: C and D, State: Open" it'll give me my lead channel. great, but now when i switch back to the snapshots that should be giving me my crunch channel, they're both stuck on the lead channel...even though their correct settings listed above haven't changed, yet somehow the clean channel assignment remains intact. weirder still, when i leave the preset and come back in hopes of returning to my unsaved state, the issue of being stuck on the lead channel held on somehow. make it make sense before hulk smash Stadium! here's a youtube link that shows exactly what's happening:

I wonder if future updates can have the Stadium be able update "everything" in one fell swoop?

Thanks but i'm only seeing how to back up to the SD card. i want to back up to my computer

If it's in the manual, then i'm blind. my apologies. Type, "how to backup helix stadium" into YouTube search? zero results...all for OG Helix. It was so intuitive with OG Helix- right in the File dropdown you could find, "backup system" or something to that effect. boom, done. No such option that i see in the computer app in the File dropdown. i can export individual (or groups) of presets, but i prefer to be able to save the presets, AND the whole system's setting as it was at the time of backup.

i've had my tuner fail twice now in the two months i've had my XL. basically what happens is it stops recognizing notes. i'll pluck my B string, and it'll register as a G or some other unrelated note. This happens on all strings while in strobe mode. i didn't switch tuner types to see if the problem went away. if it happens again, i will try. the last time it happened was at my gig last friday. had to plug into my bassist's tuner!