CBTL Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 If I plug a cry baby or other induction wah into one of the fx inputs back to front will this work? I don't want to spend out if it won't. Can some try it for me, i promis your helix won't explode 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
granetf Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 I have tried the "seagull effect" a few month ago, it works well when plugged between guitar and the main input (guitar -> wha out / wha in -> helix) but i remember it did not worked in the FX loop, (but in fact i'm not really sure). By the way, my pedalboard has not exploded ;) My wha model is GCB95 Dunlop (Classic Wha); Remember it will not work with "exotic wha" like Morley models. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBTL Posted December 1, 2016 Author Share Posted December 1, 2016 I have tried the "seagull effect" a few month ago, it works well when plugged between guitar and the main input (guitar -> wha out / wha in -> helix) but i remember it did not worked in the FX loop, (but in fact i'm not really sure). By the way, my pedalboard has not exploded ;) My wha model is GCB95 Dunlop (Classic Wha); Remember it will not work with "exotic wha" like Morley models. I use the VDI 😖 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
granetf Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 English is not my mother tongue. Can you explain me what is VDI ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBTL Posted December 1, 2016 Author Share Posted December 1, 2016 English is not my mother tongue. Can you explain me what is VDI ?? The variax cable, it's a digital cable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
granetf Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 Unfortunately, i have sold my variax years ago, so i can not test this solution for you. I really think it is not possible to do the "seagull" without 100% analogic gear.... I have done some experiences proving it's not possible while using only headphones.... even with a real wha and a real passive pickups with real amplifier.... I am a Gilmour fan since 25 years and since 25 years i have not found someone cleanly explaining me why a "top-down-wha" sound like this..... It is a really "physic" phenomena (maybe between mics, speakers and induction...) So with a digital gear... If your variax is a JT model with "real" pickups it may works with an analogic cable... Please note i have tested with an axe equipped with EMG active pickups and the effect is still there but with less "control" (it sound more than a "larsen", or an "uncontrolled feedback" (still usable but in my opinion, very hard to manage in a gig) If you are patient, i could try my wha in fx-loop to be sure but my pedal'is down (not cause of this experience but because a broken pot from a 15 years pedal) Tonbe continued. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBTL Posted December 1, 2016 Author Share Posted December 1, 2016 Unfortunately, i have sold my variax years ago, so i can not test this solution for you. I really think it is not possible to do the "seagull" without 100% analogic gear.... I have done some experiences proving it's not possible while using only headphones.... even with a real wha and a real passive pickups with real amplifier.... I am a Gilmour fan since 25 years and since 25 years i have not found someone cleanly explaining me why a "top-down-wha" sound like this..... It is a really "physic" phenomena (maybe between mics, speakers and induction...) So with a digital gear... If your variax is a JT model with "real" pickups it may works with an analogic cable... Please note i have tested with an axe equipped with EMG active pickups and the effect is still there but with less "control" (it sound more than a "larsen", or an "uncontrolled feedback" (still usable but in my opinion, very hard to manage in a gig) If you are patient, i could try my wha in fx-loop to be sure but my pedal'is down (not cause of this experience but because a broken pot from a 15 years pedal) Tonbe continued. Thank you friend. Let me know how you get along! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
granetf Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 As promised, i have just done the test (since my wha switch has been repaired) Unfortunately, it did not work in fx-loop but only beetween the guitar and the main input of the helix. I think Fx-loop (or send-receive) is "buffered" or the digital/analogic conversion kill the possibility of doing seagull effect in that case So i think it will not be possible to do it with a digitaly-linked Variax. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBTL Posted December 7, 2016 Author Share Posted December 7, 2016 Thank you for trying for me! It's much appreciated! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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