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Is it normal to experience a "swelling" sound from the delay that is used in a selected preset?

 

So old school example here, I'm using preset 1A, I change preset to 1B and it sounds like the new delay settings are "ramping up" from a dead stop to where it should be. Is there a global setting I've missed or something else going on?    

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Yes there is a global setting to change....

 

Global > Preferences > Tap tempo pitch   (ignore that is says "tap tempo"... it really applies to any delay time changes, tap or preset)

Change that setting from Authentic to Transparent

 

In the real world... if you change the speed of a delay it will "ramp up" or "ramp down" in real time. When set to authentic the Helix mimics the real world behavior (great for special effects by the way) but generally speaking, most of us would prefer that it didn't do that... "transparent" is how you solve it. 

 

 

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For further consideration, if you're changing between "presets", there is no "spillover" on delay or reverb tails. Instead of moving between presets during a song, it's advantageous to create a preset for the song, where in essence you've created a "rig" to be used for a particular song (amps, speakers, fx, etc.). Then use snapshots and stomp switches to manage the rig during the course of the song. 

 

For example, I have my Helix configured to show Presets in the top row of foot switches and snapshots in the lower row of foot switches. I create a preset for each song in our setlist (which also gives me the option to establish the tempo for the time-based effects used during that song, which is especially handy since we're always playing to an in-ear click track). I then arrange the order of my presets within a Helix setlist to match our event setlist. This lets me see our band's setlist via the Helix, further aided by naming the preset using the song name and including the starting key as part of the preset name.

 

For each song preset, I use snapshots to manage the features of the 'rig' I've created for that song. I usually name my snapshots to reflect the sections of the song in which those snapshots are used (e.g., Intro/Turn, Verse, Chorus, LeadBrk, etc.).  Depending on the needs of the song, I might be using a single snapshot footswitch to change the level and feedback ratio on an overdrive, turn off a chorus effect, change the feedback and level of a delay block, alter the routing level ratio, turn on one amp and turn off another, change to a different speaker IR, and so forth to support that section of the song and to do so "seamlessly" (including delay and reverb spillover if I want it). As a result, I do far less "pedal dancing".  Given the name of each snapshot, I also know when I should use that snapshot during the song.

 

I can understand some of the initial frustration in using the Helix because of how presets tend to behave in most other fx units that employ recallable settings. Seeing that Line 6 uses the term "setlist" to describe storage of presets, perhaps it would have been better to refer to Helix presets as "song rigs" or "song presets".  It's snapshots and virtual stomp switches that provide seamless preset feature management, Hope this helps -- thanks! 

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5 hours ago, mikeolivercgp said:

For further consideration, if you're changing between "presets", there is no "spillover" on delay or reverb tails. Instead of moving between presets during a song, it's advantageous to create a preset for the song, where in essence you've created a "rig" to be used for a particular song (amps, speakers, fx, etc.). Then use snapshots and stomp switches to manage the rig during the course of the song. 

 

I don't disagree with anything you say (it's roughly how I use the Helix)... and it's a great tip on how to setup/use the Helix.

 

I know you say "for further consideration"... but it should be stated (for clarity) that "spillover" and "what the op is experiencing" are two different things. The same problem the OP describes still exists when delay times are changed between snapshots, or even just using the tap tempo if that global setting is not changed.

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