swhitlow Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 Hello - I was debating on purchasing a Morley Mark Tremonti Wah pedal. However, before I purchased it I was wondering if the Helix would happen to have a wah pedal in it that might sound similar or very close to the same kind of pedal? I looked at the comparison tables online for the types of wah pedals that it does have and none of them mentioned the Morley (or perhaps I missed it). I was wondering if anyone had any luck with the built-in wah capabilities of the Helix? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themetallikid Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 Really finding the right Q of the wah pedal is the biggest thing you'll wanna compare. Things like the min/max setting can be adjusted to match the range of whatever pedal you wanna match it to. I usually adjust mine down to the 200hz ish for the low and around 2.1khz for the top end. I have done things like use 2 wahs in series (using same controller, settings), I also loved adding the Kinky Boost or similar pedal in front of the wah block (both set to auto engage with the exp pedal) to give a boosted (slightly dirty) sound into the wah. I have found that this helps make it a touch more vocal or aggressive to my ears. I know the Slash wah and others have a boost circuit involved. So just need to find out the level of the boost circuit and try and match that with EQ/Distortion pedal pre-wah block. The only thing we can't adjust is the Q (shape of the boost happening in the wah) or where the break in the sweep range happens. You can sorta manipulate the sweetspot of that 'break' in the range by adjusting the min/max settings, but its just not the same as a true Q adjustment. If you have a min/max settings of 100hz/3khz the frequency range where the wahs break in the sweep is will be a smaller zone within the movement range of the pedal. If you set your min/max to 500hz/1.5khz that range will give you more control in the middle of the sweep range as it stretches the middle ground to the min/max travel points of the pedal. So, sorry to direct help with the Tremonti settings, but there are ways you can manipulate the onboard wahs to make sound similar. Good enough, is up to you. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themetallikid Posted April 10, 2020 Share Posted April 10, 2020 As a bonus tip, set up a looper at the beginning of your preset, record you doing some solo or rhythm playing and while its doing its playback you can edit your preset and manipulate the wah sounds in real time then. I love this feature and so many people don't know or take advantage and do the tweak>play>tweak>play method.... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themetallikid Posted April 17, 2020 Share Posted April 17, 2020 Had an after thought back to my old Boss GT3 days.... The wahs in that unit were greatly regarded as 'weak' (from things I read at that time). A lot of users found ways to tweak a parametric EQ to be a wah. That gave you control over the frequency response, Q shape, and amount of boost that you got. It worked well in the GT3, I've tried playing around with it in my Fractal/Helix units over the years and couldn't ever duplicate the sound of a true wah that way. I'd be curious to try again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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