marcoluten Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 Hi there. i have a HX FX but i want keep using my ac30 drive and my Nobels ODR-1 drive. I have the ODR-1 in the Fx loop of the HX but i would like to put the volume of the odr up and then lower it with the HX but without sound quality loss of the odr. It this possible? Maybe with a gain patch assigned to the same switch? when lowering the volume on the pedal or on the Fx loop the gain and sound quality is getting poor. thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rd2rk Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 Try the RETURN Level (NOT the SEND Level) of the FX Loop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcoluten Posted December 14, 2021 Author Share Posted December 14, 2021 I did try that but this also lowers the output of the pedal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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rd2rk Posted December 18, 2021 Share Posted December 18, 2021 The terms GAIN and VOLUME are often used interchangeably, but they are not always the same. Anytime you change the DISTORTION (overdrive/gain) or VOLUME (OUTPUT LEVEL) of anything in a signal chain it affects everything downstream. If you lower the VOLUME at the FX Loop SEND, you lower the LEVEL hitting the DRIVE at the ODR1. That lowers BOTH the ODR1 DRIVE AND LEVEL (VOLUME). If you raise the LEVEL on the ODR1, then lower it with the FX Loop RETURN level, you're getting the same DRIVE, just at a lower VOLUME. If you then add a GAIN (fixed VOLUME - what L6 calls VOLUME is actually a Volume Pedal) Block after the FX Loop RETURN, you're simply restoring the VOLUME that you lowered at the FX Loop RETURN. That accomplishes nothing. Leave your FX Loop SEND/RETURN Levels at 0db. Set your ODR1 LEVEL (don't forget SPECTRUM!) at the optimum setting for the best results at the next effect in the signal chain, then adjust the following FX as appropriate. The OUTPUT LEVEL of each effect affects the necessary settings of the following effect for optimum "sound quality". You may need to use EQ Blocks, as "sound quality" is as often a function of EQ as Input Level. The whole signal chain is EXTREMELY interactive. Search this forum and Google for "Gain Staging". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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