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Helix 4 cable method into valve amp - Amp blocks


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Hi - I've done some extensive searching online about this topic and seen a bunch of threads and Youtube vids, but I haven't yet found the answer to my specific question. Hopefully this will make sense....

 

I have an HX Effects unit plugged into a Blackstar HT5 combo using the 4 cable method. This I get and understand. As the HX Effects doesn't have any Amp sims though, I'm interested in upgrading to another Line6 product (Stomp/LT/Helix etc) which does have the amp sims. 

 

If I did make the leap, I know that I can continue to use my existing set up and use the Blackstar preamp section (clean & gain) without the Helix amp sims. When I want to use an Helix Amp sim though, is it simply a case of putting a send/return at the very beginning of the signal path to bypass the Blackstar preamp and then insert desired the Line 6 amp sim? This would basically sit before the power amp section of the Blackstar with all the preamp controls being handled by the selected Line6 amp sim? Furthermore I could then put any distortion and effects pedals before and after the amp sim as desired. This method would basically just be using my Blackstar as a speaker I think. 

 

If it makes any difference I do pretty much all my signal path editing using the HX edit software. Also, completely appreciate that the Blackstar speaker and cab will inherently affect the tone of any simulation but I don't want to spring for a FRFR speaker right now. 

 

Thanks for reading and for any help you can offer.

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You don't need to put the FX Loop block at the beginning. Just put your Helix amp Block right next to the FX Loop Block (either side) and assign them both to the same FS. Save the preset with one ON and the other OFF. Hitting the FS will toggle 4cm OFF while the HX Amp turns ON and goes straight to the post FX and output. Pre FX (OD etc) remain in the same place in both configurations.

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