HX stomp signal chain and 4 cable method

[kakihlberg]

Hey everyone, Got a two part question here

Ben trying to figure out the signal chain without any luck

I'm playing on a Marshall 410h And got a pedalboard hooked up to it. Recently just bought a hx stomp to minimize the board a bit.

Part one

Any suggestions on how I should set up the chain?

The pedals I use: Tuner Wah Compressor Overdrive Fuzz HX stomp

So my first thought is

Guitar - > Tuner - > wah - > compressor - > fuzz - > overdrive - > hx stomp. The reason that makes sense to me is that the only pedal going in the fx loop is the hx stomp. But the part where it gets tricky is the 4 cables and where they all go?

And part two

With all this dirt and loudness from my amp I need a noise gate. Earlier I've been using a decimator g-string as a noise gate, but figured since I got the hx stomp I want to use the noise gate it offers. How would you recommend I set it up to work best possible with this pedalboard.

I get that I'm way over my head here and have alot to learn about the hx stomp, so any suggestions and help is much appreciated. Thanks in advance. Cheers.

[kakihlberg]

Great. Thanks for the picture. Really explained alot! 

But where would you put the hx stomp if following the picture?

 

And any info about the noise gate? 

Been trying to search both YouTube and Google. Could be that English isn't my first language but I just can't seem to understand how to set it up

[silverhead]

Take a look at the HX Stomp manual pg 9. The 4CM setup is pictured there. With reference to MGW-Alberta’s picture, the HX Stomp appears immediately before cable#2, as your initial post described:

Guitar - > Tuner - > wah - > compressor - > fuzz - > overdrive - > hx stomp
 

As shown in MGW-Alberta’s diagram and also in the manual’s diagram, Cable #2 goes from the Stomp Send output to your amp’s guitar input. Cable #3 goes from your amp Send to the Stomp Return.  Finally, Cable #4 goes from the Stomp main output (at Instrument level) to your amp’s Return.

 

All the FX shown in MGW-Alberta’s diagram from Cable #2 onward live in your HX stomp preset, unless you want to add some physical FX pedals like a reverb inline with Cable#4.
 

The structure of the HX stomp preset is critical when using 4CM. Most importantly it requires an FX Loop block. Any additional HX stomp FX blocks that you want included in front of your physical amp (e.g. an EQ or Filter model) must be placed before the FX Loop in your preset. All the FX that appear between Cable3 and Cable 4 in his diagram (mod, delay, reverb) appear in your Stomp preset after the FX Loop.

 

Also critical in terms of using the 4CM with utmost flexibility  is that your Stomp preset can contain an amp model but it should not contain a cab model, because your physical amp’s cab is used instead, coming into play after Cable #4. You don’t want to double up on your cab. Similarly you don’t want to double up on your amp so make sure that your preset has either the FX Loop or the amp model active at any time, not both. Assign the same footswitch to control the bypass state of your Stomp’s FX Loop and its amp. Save the preset with one of these blocks active and the other bypassed. Henceforth pressing that footswitch will toggle between using the physical amp or your Stomp’s amp model.

 

Finally, the noise gate in the HX Stomp appears in the preset’s Input block. Configure it as desired on a preset basis.

[kakihlberg]

Thank you so much! Both of you. I think I got it. I'll give it a try again tonight. The pictures really helped, so once again. Thank you!