Placing Looper Outside of Patch

[Marcipicus3]

I was looking at the Helix Stadium XL and it looks pretty awesome.

 

My one criticism of it though is that the looper is placed inside of a patch and the only way to loop using two different patches is to place the looper pedal at the same location in each patch.

 

I think that it would make more sense to place the looper outside of the patch completely so that you could lay a rhythm track on one patch with a clean amp and delay then switch to a completely different amp and effects chain. The looper could be placed after the patch at the end of  the signal chain and available at all times. 

 

I suppose there would still be a role for placing a looper within patches also so that it could be placed anywhere within the signal chain.

 

Placing the looper at the end of the chain would be the most common and most needed use case though.

 

I know that someone could purchase a Boss RC-500 Loopstation and place it after the helix but if the Helix is already capable of providing looper support then why couldn't it be implemented in the manner that I have suggested?

[silverhead]

Or…. You can use the Showcase feature in Stadium when it arrives. You will be able to create Songs with up to 8 tracks. They will be stored permanently and exist outside of any preset. You can also use Markers in the Song to change setlists, presets, and Snapshots at any Song location.

 

Re: your desire that the Looper be ‘outside’ a patch. There’s no such thing as processing outside a patch. Incoming signals (from guitar or whatever) are processed in patches containing the processing blocks. How would you record a processed sound without a patch containing the Looper block?

 

What I think would be cool is to have the Looper integrated into the Showcase/Song feature so that every time you recorded a Loop, including overdubs, you would have the option to Save it as a new Song with each overdub being a separate track. That way you can decide immediately after a particularly inspirational looping moment to keep it without having to hookup your DAW before leaving the preset. Perhaps that will be a new feature someday!