Proxy Clone Feature Request

[adflaker]

Already submitted a feature request to Line 6 here, but wanted to post about it here in case anyone agrees and wants to request it as well.

 

I love that they made Impulse Responses available to change with snapshots. It would be great if they would do the same for Proxy clones. Trying to cram all the effects for specific sounds along with clean and overdrive amp clones can get pretty DSP intensive sometimes.

 

I just watched a Jason Sadites YouTube video where he was scrolling through a bunch of his proxy clones, and the audio drop out while "loading" the new clone didn't seem overly long to me. I'd be fine with that momentary switching silence to toggle proxy clones with a new snapshot. 

[silverhead]

Not to rain on the parade but I think there’s more to this than meets the eye. Here’s a comment I made in a similar post previously:

 

 

I think that a clone change via Snapshots won't happen until/unless you can also change amps. Here's a snip from the manual section on Snapshots:

“The only thing your octopuses/snapshots can’t do is rearrange your pedalboard or swap out an effect or amp for a different one (unless both effect or amp blocks exist in the same preset).”

Reason is that DSP requirements are calculated based on the selected blocks in a preset. Snapshots aren't able to change that. I expect that clones, like amps, have varying DSP requirements.

 

Note that this is not specific to Clones; it’s a general restriction about swapping any amp or FX model in and out using Snapshots. You can’t for instance put a generic Reverb block in a preset and swap different Reverb models using Snapshots. Different Reverb blocks require different DSP allocations. With dynamic DSP management that specific DSP allocation must be made when the block is added to the preset.  You can change parameters of a selected model but not the model itself. I believe IRs require the same DSP, or at least minimal, regardless of the specific IR; that’s why it’s possible for them.
 

You could do it easily with static DSP management; you simple allocate the DSP required for the most DSP-hungry block in the class. That’s how Line 6 modellers prior to the POD HD line were managed. Note that the POD Go is a hybrid approach using some fixed blocks (static DSP management) and some ‘flex’ blocks (dynamic management).
 

If and when Line 6 introduces ‘generic’ blocks and somehow retain dynamic DSP management they will likely do it in general, not just for Clones.

[adflaker]

Ah...I assumed that clones had a static DSP requirement anyways like impulse responses (just obviously a much higher static requirement). Haven't done a deep dive into them yet, but I'd be interested to see if you can get yourself into a DSP situation where some clones are greyed out on the selection list like other amps/effects are when you try to select them.

[silverhead]

I don’t use clones enough to encounter that situation. Others?