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Re: I think I'm gonna have to send it back...

support@line6.com — Mon, 14 Jan 2013 15:21:05 GMT

No Problem just wanted to put my 2 pence worth in as how I see the amp. I can see where your coming from with Line 6 not getting there stuff together just hope that you did not send the amp back because you were mad at Line 6 but what the amp could do or not do for you. At the moment I have mine set up with the twin on the A channel with the mid turned way up and the treble turned down a bit for the closest I can get to a dumble sound and the Plexi on the B channel with a Joyo ultimate drive (OCD clone) and Joyo vintage overdrive(Tube Screamer clone) plus a vox wah in the front end this gets me pretty close to what I want at a gig.

I do hope L6 comes out with a Dumble style amp model soon though as I can see me going for a Fuchs Blackjack 21 MkII head. I do have the Pod HD 500 and can use that via the link but as yet prefer the amp and pedals by themselves as I can not seem to get quite the same with the pod with or without the pedals and anyway I spend endless hours chasing my tail trying to get the tone in my head by programming the Pod with the DT kind of what I used to do when I was into hifi years ago i.e put all the expensive cartridges amp and record deck together only to get annoyed at the static and scratches on the record instead of listening to the music. Good luck with whatever Amp you choose

Re: I think I'm gonna have to send it back...

support@line6.com — Mon, 14 Jan 2013 10:12:52 GMT

What you got when you purchased the amp was a 2 channel amp where you could put different amps on each channel or the same amp with one more gained up on one channel than the other and all this out of a choice of 4 amp models. Now what you have is the same 2 channel amp with the choice of 22 amp models to choose from and with the addition of a od or distortion pedal in the front of the amp I can think of nothing more versatile for the price. In other words what other manufacturer is making a valve output amp with a choice of amp model out of a selection of most of the classic amps ever made (wish they would add a Dumble) that you can choose 2 of, one for each channel?

Re: Pod hd 500 pre/full amps

support@line6.com — Wed, 12 Dec 2012 21:09:30 GMT

Full should be used for headphones

Re: Need help getting my DT 25 to sound good

support@line6.com — Wed, 12 Dec 2012 20:42:18 GMT

Hi Hwystar,

HwyStar wrote:

This text is from the advanced manual:

We’ve included a complete set of “Preamp” versions of each Amp as well. Choose one
of these to obtain the tone of just the preamp stage of the amp - recommended when
feeding your POD HD500 output into an external amplifier, or when using the L6 LINK™
connection.*

*Note that, whether an Amp or Preamp is selected, the additional application of Cab and
Mic Models is dependent upon the SETUP:OUTPUT settings. Please see “Page 4, Setup:
Output Options” on page 2•8.

this was how I was using the DT25 with the HD however this was with combo power amp setting on the Pod which is the recommended setting for using with the link which you could change cabs but not microphones or placement of microphone As stated above the output on the Pod is now set to Studio direct not combo power amp and to my ears sounds better what I was originally trying to do was get the amps stand alone settings to sound the same with the Pod linked and was not achieving this I also wanted to set up the patches I use at gig volume and as you will probably know a Amp with valve (tube) output sounds a lot different at room level than at gig level getting more overdrive and change of harmonic output plus the valves act like a natural compressor which is why I bought the DT25 as I mainly gig out and rarely record.

Re: Need help getting my DT 25 to sound good

support@line6.com — Wed, 12 Dec 2012 16:32:40 GMT

Ok I have been playing about with the settings on this all day and have come to the conclusion that to get the sound I want with the HD500 and DT25 linked at gig volume you need to set the HD500 to studio direct and use pre amps as suggested by Tommy . This allows you to change cabs and what can make a bid difference is the mike or the placement of the mike i.e if the top end is too harsh on the sm57 try placing it off axis it makes a lot of difference. An other thing I noticed as an old guy (which I am) I have since 1965 using my volume on the guitar to clean up overdrive and distortion and noticed that this did not happen when using the dt with hd but I have found that if you reduce the 1m setting on input 1 source set up down to 22k this fixes the issue with humbuckers anyway and as a byproduct makes the guitar sound a bit more organic.

I am certain everyone hears things differently but at the moment this works for me it might not be everybody's cup of tea I am going to give my ears a rest now and listen again tomorrow. If all is ok all I need from Line 6 is a decent model of a Dumble amp and I would be happier than a pig in ****.

Re: Need help getting my DT 25 to sound good

support@line6.com — Tue, 11 Dec 2012 23:47:20 GMT

Thanks Stumblinman I will give this a try I also play out live most the time and realise that any amp can sound way different at gig volume I also got a reply from line 6 and found a post from Tommy with his fix as well http://uk.line6.com/support/thread/55927 . Mrs Bob is out tomorrow so will have a go at both methods and maybe mix and match.

Re: Need help getting my DT 25 to sound good

support@line6.com — Tue, 11 Dec 2012 09:59:42 GMT

Forget what I just said I am having the same problem now The amp used as a stand alone sounds great but with my pod HD500 does not sound so good at gig volume I have put a support ticket in to line 6 will let you know the outcome.

There was a thread on here http://http://uk.line6.com/support/thread/55012 on same thing raised by Tommy he got the issue sorted and said he was going to post his workaround but I can not find this post anywhere and do not know if you can find posts by putting members in search I tried but nothing came up he did not put anything as a workaround in the original thread as far as I can see.

Re: Need help getting my DT 25 to sound good

support@line6.com — Sat, 08 Dec 2012 23:38:49 GMT

I do not know if you are using distotions or clean settings or what kind of music you are trying to play however try turning up the master passed 6 or 7 for some output overdrive its loud but most valve amps sound better this way. I am a blues/rock player so don't play anything more heavy than Gary Moore or cream however depending what amp you choose I have found it best for the tones I want to turn up the pre amp gain on the chosen amp until its just into pre OD then add a tube screamer or OD of your choice this IMO gives a far more natural sound than having a clean amp and trying to do it all with distortion or OD by itself. I always use Pre's for my amps and experiment with either no cab or any cab that makes the sound I want and sometimes not necessary the cab that goes with the amp. In general if an amp sounds too harsh try turning down the middle first followed by the treble and presence to taste don't be afraid to turn these down low if needs be and do not get into the mindset where all the tone controls are at 12 o clock the last amp I had (Marshall JVM) sounded best to my ears at treble at 9 o clock middle at 8 o clock bass at 11 o clock at which point I got that clasic rock sound my DT25 is not the same but I do have most the cut or treble slightly below 12 o clock depending on the amp selected if all the above does not work try some of the eq's in the pod.

Re: POD HD500 Patches with DT25

support@line6.com — Sat, 01 Dec 2012 07:36:22 GMT

on some amp models I do not use a cab the park75 to me with cab enabled sounds too bass heavy through the DT. I suppose when you think about it the DT has a cab all ready so has its own tone and we can turn cabs on or off to add a bit of sonic spice. Sometimes I use an other cab than the preset to get my sound and other times if I can not get the sound I want then I turn the cab off.

Cheers

Bob