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Re: POD HD500 & DT25 question (another one!)

support@line6.com — Thu, 11 Oct 2012 20:56:14 GMT

I can confirm one piece of this topic being discussed. The DT amps have no preamp tubes. All preamping is done digitally which makes these amps hybrids, not "all tube" amps as I've seen them described in other places & forums.

I also cannot say with 100% certainty that the preamp digital modeling is the same as any of the POD HD preamp modeling. I agree it would seem logical for a company to use the same design, but I honestly do not know and I don't think there has ever been this specific question asked & answered by anyone working at Line 6.

I hope this helps at least a little in this discussion.

Re: new 59 sound

support@line6.com — Thu, 11 Oct 2012 05:18:09 GMT

Hi Oz - I have a 59US and an 89KN pair of JTV guitars. I think I might be able to help you get more out of your JTV as they all have the same guts for the modeling/alt tuning portion.

Firs thing is if you haven't installed Monkey & Workbench, you need to download Monkey, then let Monkey guide you through the Workbench and other JTV software update processes.

If you have already done this, please write back and let me know. I can link you to a couple of patches I've made based on what you're wants or needs are for various tones, tunings, etc.

With the software, the guitar is literally capable of sounding like any other guitar in existence and even guitars that don't or couldn't physically exist in the real world but do on any Variax guitar as I've created over the years since my first Variax back in 2006. All can be done within Workbench with some patience and a bit of knowledge about the terms like...ohm, capacitance, resistance, and how each available pick-up modeled basically works. It might seem like a lot at first, but I promise it is not too difficult to get a good grasp of if you are truly wanting to learn.

Please write back and let me know where you are with the software and we can go from there. Fair enough?

Take care,

Neal

Re: 1.81 killed my '59

support@line6.com — Tue, 09 Oct 2012 21:02:08 GMT

Your guitar arrived with 1.71/1.72 installed. You need to get the latest which is not 1.81, but 1.82 which should show up in Monkey when you connect the guitar.

I don't think it's anything with the latest version of Monkey, but with the 1.81 you tried updating to.

Re: The future of the POD HD platform

support@line6.com — Tue, 09 Oct 2012 14:19:12 GMT

I think the answer is staring right at us guys. The answer is Line 6 took all (or certainly a large portion) of their profits from Spider & previous POD sales, plus all other FX stompboxes, etc., and put it all into the development of the new PA system. Any idea why a company that used to produce such a wide variety of products is now compacted down into (5) POD HD units, (3) distinct guitar body models, and two different DT amps? Think back before these units came out and how many products can you think of this company produced and decide if my view is correct or very close to the mark.

I agree with both hollis1003 & phil_m's points of view. None of use know what L6 HQ people think or know, but the ultimate decision about any gear we own is ours to choose. This does not invalidate disappointment in a company making decision we as players/consumers do not understand, but we can walk away at any time. I'm sticking with what I have as I'm not prepared to take the huge financial loss that would occur if I did jump off the Line 6 ship right now.

And it's the older gear plus the new JTV guitars are are really keeping me grounded to Line 6. I was and still am very happy with my Vetta original Vax combination. Happier with the JTV into the Vetta except the Vetta will not work properly with the JTV to change patches, so I HAVE TO USE the HD500 at least from changing patches on the Vetta while changing guitars on the JTV.

I was very upset in the beginning (when the HD500 first came out & I bought one) as we consumers were promised by Line 6 that the JTV guitars would be backwards compatible with ALL VDI equipped gear. Guess they lied, or changed their mind, or one person making the public statements had no idea the developers couldn't, wouldn't, or chose not to make that a reality, and one other possibility - the personnel that started the JTV guts part of the project left the company and others were hired to finish and knew nothing -or told not to worry- about how the previous gear worked so they could at least match the patch changing parameters up to the older gear as all Variax guitars work perfectly with all pre-POD HD units? It's great sales strategy to make units that only work with new gear instead of all gear - right? One or more of these suppositions must be correct if logic is still used these days.

Midi the HD500 to the Vetta and then JTV patch change and Vetta patch change work perfectly together. Plus as bonus, I get whatever sounds I want from the HD500 unit (or HD500 L6 linked to a pair of DT50 112 combos) as well if I want/need them alone or in combination with the Vetta. All the other gear I have is very nice and does what I want, but it's more on the -it's cool I can add this to that- side of things for me rather than really important to my guitar sound side of things.

Re: The future of the POD HD platform

support@line6.com — Tue, 09 Oct 2012 03:20:50 GMT

Please stop this posting then deleting stuff with my posts attached - thanks.

Crusty - I figure this was just you having a bit of humor and not serious. I'm not particularly happy my post was removed because you chose to remove yours and mine was tied to it. I'll remember that for any other post I might choose to make.

Never tie your post if you think someone might delete theirs as your s will get removed as well. Try not to reply to anyone other than yourself and just mention to whom you're replying to.

I've noticed others are gone, but I'm not going to recreate the whole thing from email notices.

Hollis1003 got it right and that's the main bit I'm concerned with.

From your bit of fun reply I got an email copy of what is as follows to my post stating I had a PRO unit in front of me also as you stated and you wrote that the dry line out is on the PRO unit. I wrote in part what you quoted...

"I do too Crusty have a PRO unit in front of me in my rack underneath my X3 PRO as shown in my gear photo."

Then I added the relevenet part of the following..."Yes it's there but you forgot to mention it only works for those plugged in by 1/4" inputs and not using the VDI input." Which I don't understand why it's designed this way, but it is fact.

This was your reply...

Re: The future of the POD HD platform
created by Crusty_Old_Rocker in POD HD - View the full discussion

MerlinFL wrote:

I do too Crusty have a PRO unit in front of me in my rack underneath my X3 PRO as shown in my gear photo.

You really don't want to go down the path of a Line 6 gear ownership p!ssing competition. :| :^0

Cheers,

Crusty

No I wouldn't want to get into a pissing contest with anyone - I've got prostate problems and would lose at being the better pisser every time.

Now - just for a further bit of fun - it would be a FUN thing if we got in the same place at the same time and set up ALL of our Line 6 gear!! That would be a hoot and probably lots of fun.

Even Line 6 might even be proud of such a display of so much old (Do you still have your older gear? I ask because we talked about it many moons ago.) and new gear in one place by just two guitarists!!!

I say if we did it - everyone who owns Line 6 gear gets in for free. Non-owners, perspective buyers, & just plain ole' tire-kickers pay $2.00, Axe-FX owners pay $3.00 - they're used to paying more anyway. LOL

Line 6 employees pay $5.00 and all Line 6 Executives and Team Leaders, Project Managers, or Heads of any other departments pay $10.00 and can only stay for 20 minutes so they don't learn anything more then they already do!!!

Just a bit of fun - I hope it's enjoyed by the readers and especially Crusty.

Cheers to ya Crusty,

Neal

Re: The future of the POD HD platform

support@line6.com — Mon, 08 Oct 2012 16:52:37 GMT

YES YES YES - well said hollis!!!!

I hope I can write this without derailing this thread.

Really well done Hollis - I've been writing in and posting suggestions about model packs, user installable boards with amps, reverbs, wahs, each with their own DSP which would eliminate all DSP limit messages as each board would be what each user wants instead of getting things chewing up DSP and not ever being used.

It works for POD Farm - why not next Gen the POD HD units into at least what all the keyboard manufacturers seem to know how to do, or even what Egnater did with one of their amp lines. Want an amp with all the bells and whistles? Buy the board. For example.

Re: DT50 Died and Line 6 could give a FU$#

support@line6.com — Mon, 08 Oct 2012 05:10:12 GMT

I invite whiteop and any others who have the entire Dream Rig or pieces of it to post any remarks, thoughts, suggestions or especially personal experiences as I've read on this thread on my Forum. It covers all three parts of the Dream Rig as is it marketed by Line 6 and I've asked this question as the topic for my Forum...

Do "Dream Rig" Owners Agree with the Advertisement posted on AMS?

I'm trying to make a one stop shop of sorts for all the peices that make up the Dream Rig and question what people think of the ad flyer I got in my email from AMS (American Musical Supply) onine retailer store.

Re: Do "Dream Rig" Owners Agree with the Advertisement posted on AMS?

support@line6.com — Sat, 06 Oct 2012 07:11:52 GMT

My thread - I'm done as I've already said.

But after reading your experiences, your opinions, and i believe those should be respected.

You have proof of what you wrote happened between you & Line 6. Perfect - play that card if you feel it's needed for your own reasons.

Your opinions about the reason I started this thread was to get opinions of those with the gear - whatever those opinions and experiences might be. My personal experiences have been much better than what you wrote, but I obviously have a personal problem which I expressed on another thread about this AMS/Line 6 flyer/Ad that makes the statement it does as written as it were fact instead of just an opinion - like...*No other company's gear can do what ours does.* That would be a statement I'd not make any remarks about as every company should believe their products are the best in what they are designed and built to do.

Crusty expressed his opinion of my post - fair enough. And he can like what he likes and even show everyone what the gear is supposed to be able to do well and feel under his control it all does. The majority I doubt feel quite the same way about the Dream Rig. but numbers are private property of Line 6 and will never be made public. I just watch how the company acts, reacts, or keeps silent and make my assessments from the actions in public.

On the other hand you've got someone like Silverhead posting about what rights I have or do not have to repost something posted publicly. Once it's public - it always public and becomes the property of everyone and anyone who reads it, copies it, etc. No copyright on what anyone says on these boards, and so on with the BS as it will continue long after I've stopped posting. For a guy who thinks he is so intelligent, he seems to miss the boat many times. If I had to make a very wild guess I'd think he might one of those people you also think might be a plant by the company just to post positive stuff and make sure not much neg stuff gets too much attention.

And I've use AMS without any problems until I told them that I wanted to pre-order the StageScape M20d Mixer whenever it came out just to try it and keep IF I liked it. From just that one thing all of a sudden I am now on a list with them, zZounds, Sweetwater, SameDayMusic, and Musicians Friend that if I buy something the 30 day or longer satisfaction guarantee return policy no longer applies to me and I have to agree in writing each time I make a purchase. How's that for f-d up?! Tens of thousands of dollars I've spent just in the past four years, and this is how I'm not treated by these companies. Well, there's always more ways than one to skin a cat, or as I prefer to think of it like I've tried to say here...Some people just don't know who they're F-ing with.

Post all ya want on any of my existing threads mrscaryz at least until they are all gone. I appreciate the honesty and very objective opinion of the gear and the claims being made in writing.

Re: Question about dt50 head

support@line6.com — Fri, 05 Oct 2012 19:26:06 GMT

If you need something louder on stage than a DT50 amp, then...

I think all has been covered by Zap and his initial reply to your question.

Re: Do "Dream Rig" Owners Agree with the Advertisement posted on AMS?

support@line6.com — Fri, 05 Oct 2012 17:15:06 GMT

One other question Daf - do you think this is the best sounding most advanced guitar system in the world? That is the statement on the Line 6 flyer. That is what prompted me to create this post. I wanted all things like you & I have discussed plus opinions about that specific claim based on all the gear we might not have ever tried but read about and does this statement hold true?