Re: Live use question, concerning the XLR and Unbalanced outputs

support@line6.com — Tue, 12 Feb 2013 17:01:56 GMT

BIG issue, this is my own personal view:

http://line6.com/support/message/377798#377798

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support@line6.com — Thu, 31 May 2012 08:55:29 GMT

(sorry, this is perhaps a very bad and poor English)

I'm a POD user since 1998.

There is something I can't understand, in his output's concept. Line6 says "there is interaction between real amp circuitry and real speakers, we take care of it".

OK.

NOW, let's go to define our needs: playing live with sounds we get at home from our amp/cab system and feeding PA with a cab+mic/sim signal.

1) POD Amp model > No cab > [Power Amp Output mode] > FX rtn of Guitar Ap > Real Cab xxx

In this case, there is a good signal for feeding the real cab, but the real speakers got interaction with the real amp, not the modeled one. Line6 must explain (if) how the Amp Model is working when you select "No Cab". May be as a fake load was connected to the speaker out of the modeled amp?

The actual problem with this configuration is: I can't perform Live earing sound from my real Amp+Cab system (having the correct feedback over my guitar) and at the same time send a cab&mic simulated signal to the PA or a recording board.

If you play in Jimi Hendrix style, you need feedback.

2) POD Amp model > Cab model xxx > [Power Amp Output mode] > FX rtn of Guitar Ap > Real Cab xxx

This way sounds good to me, the tone is nearly the same as 1) (no cab, feeding the xxx real cab) and theoretically there is a correct simulation of the amp/cab model.

However, the same big problem as 1): no recordable signal I can get from my POD, as the Output mode is not mic/simulated. I need to mic the real cab... Not realy a good Idea, having a device that is capable of any cab and mic simulation.

3) POD Amp model > Cab model xxx > [Studio Direct] > FX rtn of Guitar Ap > Real Cab xxx

Now I have a good signal for recorder or PA, but the sound in my real cab is "closed" by the mic simulation.

I've tried to use FX Loop as an alternative output path, but this was unuseful, as the Output Mode have influence on the FX-Send too.

Dear Line6, if the speakers are part of the circuitry you are going to simulate, that's OK, you must consider them as one thing, but this is not the case of mic. You can create a block with mic sim that can send the mic/simulated signal to the recorder (va FX-Loop? or via XLRonly?) maintaining the option to send a cab/but/non/mic/simulated signal to the power amp+real cab.

As a resume: a dreamy POD should have two output paths, one with cab+mic simulation, one with the cab simulation only. At this time is not possible to play live from a real cab sending to the mixer the (same) cab + mic simulated signal. Studio/direct mode is actually "closing" and coloring the sound coming from the real cab.

The mic simulated signal in the real cab sounds way different than the real thing. The live player wants to ear the "real thing" and record something similar, not viceversa ;-)

A good signal path would be, for example:

POD Plexi model + 4x12 Greenback25 > Line Output [as in Pwr Amp output mode] > FR/FR Amp > a real 4x12 cab
POD Plexi model + 4x12 Greenback25 > SM57 Mic Simulation > XLR output [as in Studio/Direct]

We need to ear the sound from speakers the same way as we can ear it from the real system (not miced), and AT THE SAME TIME recording it as we were micing the real system.

I think the option to send a different ouput mode to Line and XLR outputs would be THE WANTED GREAT SOLUTION.

Cheers.

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