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Re: Blown Power Transformer Club

support@line6.com — Wed, 06 Mar 2013 01:37:22 GMT

This is not sounding good at all. I can't understand how after 4 attempts at fixing whitetop's amp, it dies after 30 minutes. They should of tested the crap out that thing. I hate internet bashing of comapnies and products on forums, I just usualy take my dollars elsewhere. I know nothing about what really goes on in any amp, even less about a DT50, but you would have too think something is going on slightly different with a amp that eats 4 transformers, other than just iffy parts. Hopefully Line 6 will make this right for you brother. I am lucky enough to have another amp for jamming and POD Farm to practice with, but if my DT50, (down for upto 3 months waiting for a transformer) was actually needed, I would be seriously thinking about looking at other companies.

Re: 2X12 DT-50 Power Transformer

support@line6.com — Thu, 28 Feb 2013 04:46:34 GMT

3 months. That is what I have been told it will take for my replacement transformer to be at my service center.

Re: Blown Power Transformer Club

support@line6.com — Tue, 19 Feb 2013 04:39:47 GMT

Yes I am a member as well. I was hoping this was only a DT50 issue ? Do DT25's have this issue as well ? Line 6 apparently offered to ship my service center a used tranformer from another amp in for repairs or ship me a new one. Either one was $128 my cost. I am out of warranty, but, sending me a used part , because they know they have a issue, for free, would have been world class. Offering to send me a used one, right now, for $128, in case I really needed it for a gig, was nice. But I will pass ... Although since it is pretty clear that the problem has not been addressed, I am just getting the same part that failed once already.

I had some hours on mine, at ;east 200. I was thinking tubes where in my near future, but wasn't thinking about this type of thing. I was hoping having a DT25 and a DT50 2x12 meant I wouldn't need to think about buying any amps for, well many many years. Time will tell I guess.

So I lost out on the Guitar Port, last year. Which I thought was really a cool pratice/learning tool, and made me Line 6 fan. I have had my DT25 in the shop twice (tubes, no suprise) and now I am hearing my beloved DT's might have transformer issues. I lost faith in Fender amps over issues with the Mustang series and how they handled it. Hopefully Line 6 does a better job addressing this issue. A faulty batch of tranformers or issues with a supplier would seem easy enough to fix to a layman. Rumour was on the Fender boards that the fizz issues many people had (myself included) were with the design and therefore could not be easily addressed. Fender released a statement that in summary said, technology moves forward, we feel these amps are still a good value and please consider our new tube based modeling amp if your not happy. People went nuts and I sold mine.

I went with a DT50 which I found a good choice and a good value considering it's flexibility. It's not Line 6's first tube based modeling amp is what I was thinking. But here I am again wondering what the root cause of a issue at least several people are having is. The fact that Line 6 is out tranformers at the moment and couldn't provide a eta, is not all that encouraging. Neither is the fact that they offered me a used part. Since that would indicate to me that the new part will be no different then the one I had or the ones already in their shop.

Re: 2X12 DT-50 Power Transformer

support@line6.com — Fri, 15 Feb 2013 01:32:16 GMT

It is tough not to worry about the long term future of the DT50. Not because it is a bad amp of coarse, mostly because it is a great sounding amp. A better amp then I am a player. Possible the last 2X12 combo I would ever need to buy, if it holds up. A amp that seems to be having some issues with transformers. Since I have no idea of what that that issue is, one can't but wonder, will it continue to happen? Is it a bad batch of tranformers ? Has the problem been addressed ? Can it be ? Is the design somehow tough on tranformers ? Mine was used daily in a bedroom at low volume for the past 7 months. Does using it at low volume hurt the life of the transformer ? Reading about people being on their second or third transformer is a little scary. Should I buy a spare tranformer ? or even spares ? 5-10 years from now will I even be able to find one ? Apparently I can get a used one this week, but not a new one. Personally, I think I will just put the DT50 in the practice space and hope for the best. If it eats another tranformer, I will have to see how long it took to do so. Then decide if I need look for a different amp or stockpile some transformers.

Re: 2X12 DT-50 Power Transformer

support@line6.com — Thu, 14 Feb 2013 05:19:25 GMT

hmm, just a call from the shop and yep, blown tranformer. I was given the offer of a used one or wait for a new one, with no eta. $128 w/shipping. Seems they are on back order, must be in demand :-( I would wait months for a improved part that didn't need to be replaced in short order .... another part that I can't rely in is of little use ....

Re: DT-50 won't power on

support@line6.com — Fri, 01 Feb 2013 05:32:20 GMT

Seems I have had the same issue. Everything was fine, amp was on, playing along, fizzing/crackling, volume fades out, amp off, no lights, won't power on. F !! This is why I gave up on the Fender Mustang, They had power supply issues on the 100watt versions ..... Out of warranty. Service center is close. God I hope L6 has addressed this with a better part, I was hoping to have this amp for a long time. It was a good value I felt, but if it can't be counted on, then it ain't Scottish.

Re: 4 cable method ???

support@line6.com — Thu, 13 Dec 2012 04:10:10 GMT

Not sure exactly sure what I did I wrong the first time, I reconnected everything and it worked like a champ. I might not of had one of the cables pushed all the way in on the back the amp. To me the 4 CM is great. I am sure I probably could have put together a pedal board of used pedals. Tuner, wah, delay, tube screamer, compressor for the same or a little less than the HD 500. But now I can virtualy swap out any pedal, or create multiple virtual pedalboards by just changing to a different patch and I don't have spend more cash trying different combinations of pedals.

I picked up a factory second DT 50 first and fell in love with the tone. I struggled trying to recapture that feeling after I got the POD. I know the POD can sound great, I have heard it many times in other peoples demo's. The POD is likely just a little over my head. I could never quite get the amp models to sound as good as I did simply following the suggested models that came on the card on top of the DT50. Maybe it was in my head, I seemed to come close a few times, but then I would do some more tweaking and before I knew it, the tone was harsh, annoying or over processed or had to much of effect ... It is pretty obvious that switching topologies in the middle of a song is not very practical, although the idea sounded intriguing when I first started looking at the DT/HD500 Link combination.

Now using the 4cm, I got exactly what I wanted. A great amp that can sound like a Fender, Marshall or Mesa Boogie for less than the price of a decent version of any one of them. I also have a pedalboard with a nearly endless supply of combinations and a decent tuner for the price of a first attempt at creating a small board. I know there is a ton of high tech going to waste, but I still feel like I am getting a good value for my dollar. Now I can focus and being be a better player and not trying to tweak my patches all the time.

Thank you Jim and Hollis, and Thank you Line 6 !!!!

Re: 4 cable method ???

support@line6.com — Sat, 08 Dec 2012 21:38:27 GMT

Thanks Guys. I will give it another go and report back.

Re: 4 cable method ???

support@line6.com — Wed, 05 Dec 2012 00:32:28 GMT

I tried the 4 cable method with my HD 500 and DT50. I used the sudio eq and added the boost. Double checked the cables etc .. I had to crank the amp way way up just to be able even here the guitar. I read that some setups may require the amp to be turned up, but the volume drop was so huge, I can't see anyone ever being able to play out like that. The amp just wouldn't get loud at all. This was with the HD500 master on full. I can only assume, I did something wrong ..

Any guesses as to what look for ? I like the DT 50 models, and being able to kick on/off some effects is about all I really need at this time so the 4 cable is very intriguing to me, if I can workout my level drop issue.

Re: terrible noise when i connect my new HD500 to my new DT25 (AES/EBU DMX)...what's wrong?

support@line6.com — Sat, 15 Sep 2012 18:32:24 GMT

hmm. well glad your making progress !! I just tried my strat. Cranked it up a little on topology 3 and class A. Plenty of hum with strat volume knob dimed if you will, noise decreases when I lower the volume on strat. Flip the 5 way guitar switch to a posistion with 2 coils, say position 4. No noise to speak of. In both cases turning the volume all the way down on the guitar is silent as expected.