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Re: Why no amp for both the acoustic sounds and the electric sounds?

support@line6.com — Wed, 27 Feb 2013 12:58:52 GMT

Thanks for the pointer to the Behringer - I'll check that out. As far as the Acoustasonic goes, I think the 150 is supposed to be designed to support both acoustic and electric sounds: "For acoustic players who double on electric guitar, the Voicing control also has Blackface, tweed and British amp settings, which makes a second amp just for electric guitar unnecessary." I believe it cuts the output to the tweeter in 'electric' mode? I don't think the JR model does this?

Re: Why no amp for both the acoustic sounds and the electric sounds?

support@line6.com — Wed, 27 Feb 2013 12:47:51 GMT

For acoustic models, I think I'd go straight in from the JTV.

Re: Why no amp for both the acoustic sounds and the electric sounds?

support@line6.com — Tue, 26 Feb 2013 18:05:22 GMT

I've been looking at this as well - I can see the 'modelling into the PA' solution but I really need an amp. Has anyone had any experience of the JTV into a Fender Acoustasonic (http://http://www.fender.com/en-GB/series/acoustasonic/acoustasonic-150-combo/) which apparently does both jobs?

Re: JTV-59P - unwanted harmonics on D tunings

support@line6.com — Tue, 26 Feb 2013 17:50:05 GMT

Hi all - OP here - only just come back to look at the thread!

Having now lived with the JTV 59 for a while (I'd already realised the harmonic overtones were related to the conflict between the 'natural' and pitch shifted tuning) I've come to the following thoughts:

For general playing in altered tunings a mixture of muting techniques resolves the problem.
It is an insurmountable problem if you are playing in an altered tuning and want the open strings to ring out - say in DADGAD or a CSUS2 tuning a la Martin Simpson - as the overtones are horrible! The only solution is to physically retune the guitar.
My feeling is the '59 (or at least the one I have) is quite an 'A resonant' guitar - those tones seem very apparent to my ears - and the nature of the pietzo seems to exacerbate this. I no longer have a Les Paul to compare, but I think the one I had was pretty A resonant as well. Again, muting technique resolves this to a reasonable extent and this is just a factor of learning to live with a particular guitar (IMHO!).
A light touch on the acoustic models helps minimise the issue (and makes them sound better!).

I decided to keep the guitar. Not perfect perhaps, but a great creative tool and actually a lot of fun to play! I'm going to experiment with using a damper at the nut (not having felt the need of one before - but if it's good enough for Guthie Govan, it's good enough for me!) to see if that helps mitigate some of the open string problem.

I hope Line 6 continue to work on the issue rather than relegate it to the 'too difficult' pile. Although I can appreciate the problem of differentiating between wanted and unwanted harmonics, it is limited to the altered tunings, so suppressing some harmonics in some tunings might limit the problem to manageable bounds?

Re: JTV-59P - unwanted harmonics on D tunings

support@line6.com — Thu, 06 Dec 2012 10:38:42 GMT

Firmware is 1.82 - can't put 1.9 on as there seems to be an issue with Vista and Monkey (there is a thread on that as well!). I've got round it to a degree by putting a Csus4 tuning on the custom bank and then capo up to D, which doesn't suffer so much.

You can see the strong A harmonic appearing on a spectrum analysis, so it is certainly there.

If I can work out how I'll raise a support ticket as well.

JTV-59P - unwanted harmonics on D tunings

support@line6.com — Wed, 05 Dec 2012 12:34:42 GMT

Hi all

Just got a JTV-59P and I'm having a problem with the acoustics and alt tunings. If I dial up DADGAD and play a G on the first string, I'm getting an loud harmonic ring - A on the 4th I believe. It's not acoustic bleed as I've recorded it with audacity and the harmonic is still present. If I retune the guitar to DADGAD manually the ring isn't there (or not so much as to be a problem). Any one have the same issue (or maybe solved it)?

I notice the same ringing on some of the Lester models in standard tuning with high gain sounds - are the 59's sonically prone to this harmonic?

I use model D tunings most of the time, so it's rendering the guitar pretty well unusable for me! Thinking of returning it if I can't resolve it quickly.

Thanks!

Re: No support for JTV 1.9 with OS X 10.5.8 ???

support@line6.com — Tue, 04 Dec 2012 18:22:04 GMT

Having the same issue in Vista, Monkey is 1.62, but shows 1.82 as latest and no updates available. No file available for download from the 'firmware' downloads either?

Re: Tyler Variax or Darkfire

support@line6.com — Thu, 02 Dec 2010 09:52:36 GMT

Er....back on topic...thanks for your input people. In terms of the original question, why don't we agree to ignore the issue of price differential!

I think the main issue with the Darkfire is slack strings in lower end tunings. I tend to play in D and C tunings & have tried experimenting with different gauge strings to manage this problem - not great for the guitar neck (currently a much loved, battered, obscure Peavey T-60!) - but haven't really found the best solution. The VG-99 seems a real alternative to the Variax in this respect, I didn't realise it had the capacity for different tunings. In the UK the cost of a VG-99 plus a GK3 pickup is about £1000, so not that much more than a new Variax.

There are a couple of good demos of the VG-99 on youtube which show the alternate tuning capability; can't make the insert link thingy work, so if you are interested search 'VG99' and 'Alex Hutchings' for the best one.

Tyler Variax or Darkfire

support@line6.com — Tue, 30 Nov 2010 13:20:45 GMT

Newbie to the group, so apologies if this question has already been asked. My interest in the Variax is primarily for the ease of access to alternative tunings. I wondered if anyone had a view on the comparision between the Tyler Variax and the Gibson Darkfire in this respect? Obviously I understand the approaches are different (Darkfire retunes, Variax pitch shifts), but wondered which was better in use. Thanks in advance.