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Re: M20D versus DL1608

support@line6.com — Wed, 12 Dec 2012 06:13:32 GMT

Thanks for the info of safe using 48v.

I have a wireless e965 and a cable conected e835, on my previous DL1680 i was getting pop's in my speakers when

Phantom power was turned on with both mics plugged in so i had to turn off the 48v to have 2 clean mics. Mi e965 wireless mic works fine without 48v but my e835 has better presence with the power turned on, so i had the phantom turned on an put up

With the pops.

Now with my new M20D i plug the wireless mic in the input strip with 48v turned off and my hard wired mic in the other input strip With 48v turned on, this way i get a good presence on my e835 and NO POPS Anymore, somehow my wireless receiver was generating pops when plugged in to

The same strip with the e835 and the 48V turned on.

Re: Wish list for future firmware releases

support@line6.com — Mon, 10 Dec 2012 13:35:43 GMT

Not wish but a must: LINEAR FADERS...!! in iPad App.

Faders to turn linear when double tap, make your adjusment and double tap

To go back to round, for space convenience.

Re: FX Mute Button?

support@line6.com — Mon, 10 Dec 2012 01:56:41 GMT

Hi ArneLine6, I did it, i created the sub-group for FX Mute. Thank you, It works grate.

The only thing left is linear Faders so i can actually start useing the iPad. This was the main reason why i bought the Mixer.

M20D versus DL1608

support@line6.com — Sun, 09 Dec 2012 00:10:53 GMT

I posted this on Facebook at (Pauser Pro) chat website and i mean it.

I bought the Mackie DL1608 at (Sam Ash) in Phoenix and it is ok but it does not even come close to M20D. I exchange it after 45 days and after numerous atempts to contact Mackie's technical support, Don't expect MACKIE technical support to ever REPLY, i guess they are to big for that, my last email to Mackie was thanking them for not ever responding, that really made my exchange decission easy.

0. M20D has "channel linking" option, so my keyboard or Laptop stereo out can finally be adjusted with a single fader.

1. Four studio quality Fx's versus 2 mediocre Fx's on Mackie, specially the reverb, it sucks bad even after Eq-ing it...!!

2. XY Pad for best vocal EQ tweek, if you want a brighter mic..!! you just move the dot on the XY pad, and it does not just increase the high freq's, it actually deals with all the ( freq's and Q-es) on entire scale so you don't end up sounding to thin. This briliant algoritm compensate's to a brighter mic but yet a full background voice. EQ voice with Mackie was a horrible experience for me.

3. 48v phantom power on selectable inputs versus all inputs at the same time on Mackie. Now i can use mics that do or don't require phantom power at same time.

4. Volume auto Track-Trim (keeps vocals in sweet spot at all time)

5. Save setup presets direct to SD Card, No more writing down numbers in case something happends to iPad or Mixer.

6. Record multiple channels on SD card or External Hard Drive, No PC needed

7. Computer interface.

8. Real instrument presets and mutch biger variety Then DL1608, i mean you have almost every musical instrument ever manufactured as preset, you even have a laptop preset to where you can link both channels from a laptop to one Fader on M20D for using backing tracks, Try that on Mackie DL1608, but most importantly this presets actually work, they do what their names suggests loading everything you need for the instrument selected, including EQ, Compressor, FX, etc..., all tuned specifficaly for the instrument selected.

9. Did i mentioned 4 band compresor versus 1 band on Mackie... Every body knows what a plus that is specially when compressing the main out.

10. Automatic feedback detection and corection. It works grate, i tested it yesterday by getting to close to my ElecroVoice active speakers then opened up the EQ window to see just what changed, it applied a verry narrow notch filter exactly on the freq in question and then you can reset it if you want by simply pushing the reset button. Bravooooo M20D....!!

11. De-esser.......!! AND MUCH MUCH MORE...!!

M20D was an instant hit for me right out of the box, Mackie took me a long time to tweek and in the end it never sounded like the M20D. Again, no respons from Mackie what so ever other then when i finally sent my last e-mail thanking Mackie for making my upgrade decision from DL1608 to M20D easyer...!! I E-mailed Tec-support asking for help on EQ-ing my e965 vocal mic, i just needed them to suggest a EQ curve for my e965 mic that will bring me closer to reality and i would have tweeked from there to customize for my voice, nobody ever reply, so ****** off..!!

The Male presets that comes with DL1608 Sucks Balls...!! I tested with SM58, e965, and e835. don't know what vocal mic they used to make this preset with, Radio Shack?

The only complaint i have with M20D is the circular faders on ipad app, terrible adjusment jumps, a guy needs to be able to double tap the fader on iPad app and make it turn linear, and i mean actually linear..!! make your adjusment and then double tap again to make it go back to circular shape for space convenience.

See DL1608 to M20D upgrade pictures attached.

Re: FX Mute Button?

support@line6.com — Sat, 08 Dec 2012 14:18:48 GMT

Thank you ArneLine6, asuming there are instructions in the user book, i will try this subgroup. Would it be accesable on the main screen under perform mode, or do i have to flip pages?

For now i created 2 mic presets using the file icon to where all mics have no FX (called it "FX Mute") and another one with all FX back on, called (FX On), but i have to go to tweek mode, then hit file icon, then choose FX Mute,

this is "3 steps".

Ps: You stated you are listening and implementing, here is my list:

1. Faders turning linear when touched and stay linear when double tapped, also db gain numbers will be nice.

2. FX Mute in Perform screen mode, instant access to it.

3. Mic presets like (e965 Male) or (SM58 Female) etc...

4. 6 band EQ on laptop icon. I compress and EQ my backing tracks to blend in with vocals.

Re: FX Mute Button?

support@line6.com — Fri, 07 Dec 2012 23:27:19 GMT

Thanks dboomer, on my previous DL1608 it was very simple. Above the FX faders there was a mute button, instant access to mute FX.

About Subgroup? are you refering to creating a MIC preset without FX in it and just recall it from the FILE icon as needed?

PS: By the way, the preset name to the left of the file icon dont change when choosing diferent preset, so i have to keep opening the preset window to see what preset is highlighted and loaded current. any info on this? firmware 1.0... is there a newer one?

Re: FX Mute Button?

support@line6.com — Fri, 07 Dec 2012 18:20:16 GMT

Thanks Slidedude, the subgroup sounds complicated and probably not such instant access to MUTE FX, the footswitch may be ok but i mainly use my iPad to control the M20D so naturally i would expect the SS to have a simple (Mute-Fx) button somewhere on the screen at all times without having to flip pages, but even a flip page one will be better then NONE.....

FX Mute Button?

support@line6.com — Fri, 07 Dec 2012 15:56:14 GMT

I can't find the FX Mute button anywhere....!!

I Need this for small announcements between songs.

My firmware version is 1.0, is there a newer version available?

if there is a newer version..!! i dont see it under downloads M20D.

Can Anyone Help? Arne or Dboomer, or anyone having same problem.

PS: One video clip demonstration of M20D on youtube shows different software options then what i have on my board. in that video I see some (gratuation hat icon) that i dont have on my mixer, and a window to where you can engage auto trim for all channels you want under same window and then the pust this button that starts monitoring all channels engaged and makes trim corections and also claims to increase volume to compensate as needed.

Re: Make faders on iPad linear...!!

support@line6.com — Thu, 06 Dec 2012 13:40:08 GMT

Thanks ArneLine6, this option is worthless, i was expecting a real linear fader displaying numbers as adjusted. When linear option is choosed, the fader should turn linear when touchet and go back to round when released, or turn linear when bouble tap, make your adjustments and double tap again to go back to round knob. Db Numbers display would be nice.

iPad App Fader's Behavior Change Request.....!!

support@line6.com — Thu, 06 Dec 2012 03:55:35 GMT

When a controller knob is touched by finger tip, then a bigger linear fader should be displayed on the ipad.

Here you can make accurate changes and no big controller jumps as it is now.

Displaying the numeric value of the controller setting would make it possible to compare the settings before and after the modification.

Please someone with decision making power at Line6 make this happend, and how about a 6 band EQ when you choose a LapTop icon as a source, I use backing tracks and need to be able to EQ 6 band to bland in better.

Also, what is the latest firmware available for M20D. I just got my SS and it comes with version 1,