Community: Message List - Floor Pod Plus Editor

Re: Floor Pod Plus Editor

support@line6.com — Wed, 11 Jan 2012 01:16:09 GMT

Awesome. Time to hunt for some Cakewalk deals... Thanks!

Re: Floor Pod Plus Editor

support@line6.com — Wed, 11 Jan 2012 00:20:53 GMT

Any Cakewalk UM family USB MIDI interface will work too. These are pretty affordable.

Tony

Re: Floor Pod Plus Editor

support@line6.com — Tue, 10 Jan 2012 23:35:55 GMT

Super new to all this. Got the FPP and then bought a five dollar midi-to-USB cable to connect everything. Obviously having some sync issues and seems I can't send data to the FPP from the computer. I read this forum and I'm lead to believe my five dollar cable needs to be replaced with the M-Audio Product. Is this correct? Cheers...

Re: Floor Pod Plus Editor

support@line6.com — Sun, 03 Jul 2011 19:07:09 GMT

Hello

So I traded my interface for an M-Audio, and instantly everything worked perfectly.

Thank you very much for your help.

Have a nice summer.

Re: Floor Pod Plus Editor

support@line6.com — Sat, 25 Jun 2011 01:53:28 GMT

Thanks

I will replace my device and let you know about the result.

Thank you very much for all these tips.

Thierry

Re: Floor Pod Plus Editor

support@line6.com — Fri, 24 Jun 2011 23:28:09 GMT

You need to use a different MIDI interface. Our tests on all the lastest EMU interfaces we acquired came back positive - These devices can't handle any reasonably sized sysex message without choking.

Try an Edirol, Cakewalk or M-Audio USB MIDI interface instead - These can be had for under $40 these days and are also multi-client which means you can use them in more than one program at a time on Windows.

Tony

Re: Floor Pod Plus Editor

support@line6.com — Fri, 24 Jun 2011 22:35:27 GMT

Hello,

I am new to this forum and also new in the L6 community.

I have bought a new FPP, and I experience exactly the same problems as described by Wobbie.

Everything seems to work fine, but the tones I download will never enter the FPP.

I use an E-MU midi1x1 Tab device.

Maybe I should go to the store and ask to borrow another device ?

Thank you for your help.

Thierry

Re: Floor Pod Plus Editor

support@line6.com — Sat, 12 Mar 2011 16:49:24 GMT

Right - These symptoms are completely consistent with what I said about the EMU interface's inability to handle large SysEx messages. Apparently whenever Vyzex tries dumping a preset to your FPP the message never makes it past the interface:

wobbie wrote:

Select a patch (31d), reduce the volume to 0.
The "." shows on the FPP to indicate a change and the volume does change.

Program change and Continuous Controller Message... No problem there - Those messages are under 5 bytes long and are standard MIDI, not SysEx.

Click Sync, then sync channel. Each click shows activity on the FPP but the "." change indicator remains.

Preset dump message is over 100 bytes long and is SysEx. EMu fails to transmit full message, but FPP shows it is receiving something, but FPP rejects it since it is corrupted or incomplete.

So, I can edit using Vyzex and load each patch as long as I save manually via the FPP.

I think you may find that the edits you have made are applied to presets that were already in the FPP memory, and not the ones that you loaded in Virtual mode.

The one inconsistent thing in this theory is that you aren't having problems when the program start up to 'get' the FPP's data are you? If all the sounds on your FPP are loading up on launch without errors then it appears that your Emu interface is passing these dump messages into the computer without a problem.

Tell you what - I will see about us aquiring one of these Emu interfaces and having our test guys duplicate your setup - This will take a week or so depending on how locally available that interface is for us. In the meantime, I suggest you borrrow an Edirol or Cakewalk MIDI interface and try that instead of the EMU.

Cheers,

Tony

PS: Wobbie, which model is it by the way? I notice you never mentioned this earlier in the thread.

Re: Floor Pod Plus Editor

support@line6.com — Sat, 12 Mar 2011 16:21:56 GMT

Well, I've been working with it more and what I find is that it never truly syncs to the FPP.

Example:

I set up in virtual mode.

Select a patch (31d), reduce the volume to 0.

The "." shows on the FPP to indicate a change and the volume does change.

Click Sync, then sync channel. Each click shows activity on the FPP but the "." change indicator remains.

From Vyzex I select 31c then 31d and it correctly shows the volume at 0 but the FPP still has the old volume setting.

If I manually rotate the volume on the FPP I see the knob rotate on the Vyzex screen. If I change the volume on the Vyzex screen the volume changes on the FPP.

Everything seems to work except the actual "save" on the FPP.

Now, If I make a change on Vyzex (which is transmitted to the FPP) and manually press "Save" 2x on the FPP it is saved.

So, I can edit using Vyzex and load each patch as long as I save manually via the FPP.

If I re-load a set and select "on-line" as opposed to virtual and "auto save" I get the same thing. I can change volume on a patch, I see the change indicator in the FPP and can even select "store-in" and select the same channel to force an overwrite. The change indicator remains. I select a new channel and come back and the Vyzex displays the new volume setting but the FPP does not reflect it.

Bank editing basically does not work without the save function.

So everything works except the actual "store" to the FPP.

Is this a defective FPP or an inadequate MIDI interface?

Regards

Re: Floor Pod Plus Editor

support@line6.com — Fri, 11 Mar 2011 02:39:52 GMT

E-Mu/Creative Labs used to be one of the best when it came to MIDI interfaces - The SoundBlaster MIDI port was the gold standard and it could handle really big volumes of SysEx data.

Unfortunately, those days are gone. The latest MIDI interfaces by EMU cannot handle more than average flows of performance data without choking up. Their handling of large amounts of SysEx (What the FPP generates and the Vyzex editor responds with) is not reliable enough.

I suggest you use another interface like the affordable (under $50) models available from M-Audio, Cakewalk (Roland) or Edirol (Roland again). The UM line by the Roland owned companies is particularly excellent for this and is also multi-client meaning you'll be able to interface your FPP to a DAW program at the same time as the Vyzex editor.

Cheers,

Tony