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    <title>Community: Message List - MKII 112 - Second Impressions</title>
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    <pubDate>Sun, 29 May 2011 03:08:12 GMT</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: MKII 112 - Second Impressions</title>
      <link>http://line6.com/support/message/283141?tstart=0#283141</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:34abe4da-c4d6-414f-bdf3-a557a7d47da1] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;My MK2 112 sounds great &amp;amp; no rattles...my other 2 guitarist both have MK1-2/12 &amp;amp; HD100 8/12 &amp;amp; my 112 hangs with them easily...I had the 2/12 but I hated lugging the thing around..traded it for the 112 model &amp;amp; never looked back..especially when we are done &amp;amp; it's time to move them....I am out the door first......&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:34abe4da-c4d6-414f-bdf3-a557a7d47da1] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 29 May 2011 03:08:07 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>support@line6.com</author>
      <guid>http://line6.com/support/message/283141?tstart=0#283141</guid>
      <dc:date>2011-05-29T03:08:07Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>1 year, 11 months ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: MKII 112 - Second Impressions</title>
      <link>http://line6.com/support/message/85626?tstart=0#85626</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:57fd1408-6c5b-45a4-8893-c6a21009882f] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;After reading the other more recent comments, I wonder if the grade of plywood used (or that batch or lot) is delaminating... as in the layers of wood aren't sticking together... as in bad materials, NOT bad design. After all, the backs on SV Mk ones don't do this...&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I've had a sheet or two of Marine plywood that came through like this.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:57fd1408-6c5b-45a4-8893-c6a21009882f] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 21:14:53 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>support@line6.com</author>
      <guid>http://line6.com/support/message/85626?tstart=0#85626</guid>
      <dc:date>2009-10-23T21:14:53Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>3 years, 7 months ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: MKII 112 - Second Impressions</title>
      <link>http://line6.com/support/message/85578?tstart=0#85578</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:fe173a11-1e5e-4f23-acd4-64814870443d] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;Adding stiffeners (bracing) to the inside of the back panel I'd say will void the warranty so IMO that idea is out.&amp;#160; Removing the back panel, making a new panel to experiment with, then if the amp goes south replace it with the original and send it back.&amp;#160; That might work if you don't miss any of the screw holes and get caught.&amp;#160;&amp;#160; &lt;img height="16px" src="http://l6c.scdn.line6.net/support/4.5.7/images/emoticons/laugh.gif" width="16px"/&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;-------&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;And for you &lt;strong&gt;Tube Tone Snobs&lt;/strong&gt; out there&amp;#160; ( &lt;img height="16px" src="http://l6c.scdn.line6.net/support/4.5.7/images/emoticons/laugh.gif" width="16px"/&gt;&lt;img height="16px" src="http://l6c.scdn.line6.net/support/4.5.7/images/emoticons/laugh.gif" width="16px"/&gt;&amp;#160; I'm one too ), don't expect that real gutsy tube tone until L6 decides to get serious about tube amps.&amp;#160; The SV, IMO, does compete very well with the SS market and the lower priced tube amp market, but when you start pulling in the big boys.........&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;gt;&amp;#160;&amp;#160; &lt;img height="16px" src="http://l6c.scdn.line6.net/support/4.5.7/images/emoticons/laugh.gif" width="16px"/&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Thats all I've got&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;MT&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:fe173a11-1e5e-4f23-acd4-64814870443d] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 19:27:03 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>support@line6.com</author>
      <guid>http://line6.com/support/message/85578?tstart=0#85578</guid>
      <dc:date>2009-10-23T19:27:03Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>3 years, 7 months ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: MKII 112 - Second Impressions</title>
      <link>http://line6.com/support/message/85574?tstart=0#85574</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:e7aeb421-cce7-4879-817a-f1dae0f7c831] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;If resonant frequency vibration is at play, I would think that you might consider what it would take to alter the resonant frequency of the cab. I've been wrong plenty, but I'd be surprized if a towel is going to do much good. The resonant frequency is a function of the mass of the object (Just like your guitar string the thicker the string, the lower the pitch). Change the mass and it will resonate at a different frequency (provided that is the issue).&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;As such, the non-destructive, simple test that I am proposing is to get yourself some wood clamps, and clamp something (another piece of wood, or flat piece of metal) to the back panel. The clamps need to be tight enough such that the cab feels like it the clamped on mass is part of the cab. The Mass needs to be big enough to make some appreciable difference in the resonant frequency.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p style="min-height: 8pt; height: 8pt; padding: 0px;"&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;This same technique is used for suspension bridges whereby the wind can somtimes get the bridge resonating to the point that they want to shale themselves apart. Engineers go in an strategically add mass in certain points to change the resonant frequency such that the new resonanat frequency is something that is improbable. It's a lovely thought the next time you are crossing a high bridge :-)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:e7aeb421-cce7-4879-817a-f1dae0f7c831] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 19:23:41 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>support@line6.com</author>
      <guid>http://line6.com/support/message/85574?tstart=0#85574</guid>
      <dc:date>2009-10-23T19:23:41Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>3 years, 7 months ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: MKII 112 - Second Impressions</title>
      <link>http://line6.com/support/message/85567?tstart=0#85567</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:c22ad74e-1e15-473d-9774-f811c981f90a] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;can anyone else confirm the issue is just with the 112 and not the 212. i dont live in the US so i usually buy based on the forum input from you guys and youtube videos, i have the SV212mki but i want to buy the mk2 212.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:c22ad74e-1e15-473d-9774-f811c981f90a] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 19:04:30 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>support@line6.com</author>
      <guid>http://line6.com/support/message/85567?tstart=0#85567</guid>
      <dc:date>2009-10-23T19:04:30Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>3 years, 7 months ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: MKII 112 - Second Impressions</title>
      <link>http://line6.com/support/message/85528?tstart=0#85528</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:289dade7-dee8-472a-ba7d-aef1975d7d35] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;My 212 doesn't have the issue.&amp;#160; However, neither did the 112 I tried in Guitar Center.&amp;#160; I jammed loud and long in the loud room on each one too.&amp;#160; The 112 definitely "shook" more while playing at volume, but didn't have any annoying rattles.&amp;#160; Both were straight out of the boxes when I tested them.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:289dade7-dee8-472a-ba7d-aef1975d7d35] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 18:15:05 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>support@line6.com</author>
      <guid>http://line6.com/support/message/85528?tstart=0#85528</guid>
      <dc:date>2009-10-23T18:15:05Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>3 years, 7 months ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: MKII 112 - Second Impressions</title>
      <link>http://line6.com/support/message/85517?tstart=0#85517</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:8c07ff09-70ea-4075-8267-af4b4b097415] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;nope, i asked......&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:8c07ff09-70ea-4075-8267-af4b4b097415] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 17:52:58 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>support@line6.com</author>
      <guid>http://line6.com/support/message/85517?tstart=0#85517</guid>
      <dc:date>2009-10-23T17:52:58Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>3 years, 7 months ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: MKII 112 - Second Impressions</title>
      <link>http://line6.com/support/message/85505?tstart=0#85505</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:a85383b7-e281-44de-92e2-c0e11d8a082d] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;Most places will let you order a new one as you simultaneously return the old.&amp;#160; That's if you don't mind the extra temporary charge on your credit card.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:a85383b7-e281-44de-92e2-c0e11d8a082d] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 17:41:06 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>support@line6.com</author>
      <guid>http://line6.com/support/message/85505?tstart=0#85505</guid>
      <dc:date>2009-10-23T17:41:06Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>3 years, 7 months ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: MKII 112 - Second Impressions</title>
      <link>http://line6.com/support/message/85502?tstart=0#85502</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:642e180c-7190-4f86-a346-177fec869573] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;I have another 112 on the way. unfortunatley, there suckass RMA policy is to get the return 1st, 3-4 day turnaround time, then prob shipped ground I'm looking at 2 plus weeks wihtout an amp. Nice, real nice. The new one will prob do the same thing based on what i've read on here. Tech support says they dont know about this problem but will try to duplicate it. SUX.&lt;img height="16px" src="http://l6c.scdn.line6.net/support/4.5.7/images/emoticons/confused.gif" width="16px"/&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:642e180c-7190-4f86-a346-177fec869573] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 17:37:01 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>support@line6.com</author>
      <guid>http://line6.com/support/message/85502?tstart=0#85502</guid>
      <dc:date>2009-10-23T17:37:01Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>3 years, 7 months ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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      <title>Re: MKII 112 - Second Impressions</title>
      <link>http://line6.com/support/message/85477?tstart=0#85477</link>
      <description>&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyStart:660cbc6d-9c44-4b87-b4e6-42e202b2d108] --&gt;&lt;div class="jive-rendered-content"&gt;&lt;p&gt;is this problems just with the 112?? anyone tried the 212 yet???&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;!-- [DocumentBodyEnd:660cbc6d-9c44-4b87-b4e6-42e202b2d108] --&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 16:54:03 GMT</pubDate>
      <author>support@line6.com</author>
      <guid>http://line6.com/support/message/85477?tstart=0#85477</guid>
      <dc:date>2009-10-23T16:54:03Z</dc:date>
      <clearspace:dateToText>3 years, 7 months ago</clearspace:dateToText>
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