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Re: HD 500 to PWR Amp: Volume?

support@line6.com — Fri, 12 Oct 2012 12:44:13 GMT

That is a good and valid setup. You have to bear in mind though that the Fender Pre-amp is now always in line with your setup .... effectively you are using the Pod as a stompbox in the amp loop.

The Fender pre-amp will always colour your tone before it gets to the pod. If you are using FX Only, this is no issue at all when using stuff like delays and reverbs on the POD and some modulations too. Distortions and wahs may sound odd though. Normally they go in front of an amp.

If, however, you are using amp modelling then you are always going to be hearing the Fender Pre-amp first. This may not sound 'bad' but it may seriously limit how much you can modify the sound to sound like how you want it.

It's the usual deal .... the configuration isn't 'wrong' it just has some limitations.

Re: HD 500 to PWR Amp: Volume?

support@line6.com — Thu, 11 Oct 2012 21:46:23 GMT

Hi All,

I know this original post was made back in 2011, but I found it while trying to resolve an issue I had concerning my Fender Blues Deluxe (FBD) Reissue Amp and thought I would post some info in case others have this problem in the furture.

I don't have ANY issues with using the POD HD500 with my Fender by using the following method:

Guitar into Input (1 or 2) of the Fender amp > Power Amp Out of the FBD into the Guitar In of the PHD500 and then 1/4" OUT L/Mono into the Fender's Power Amp IN

This allows you to use the FBD controls AND the footswitch that came with the amp as well as the controls of the PHD500.

I hope someone will find this helpful (if not, just ignore the man behing the curtain)

Re: RE: HD 500 to PWR Amp: Volume?

support@line6.com — Mon, 21 Feb 2011 23:19:48 GMT

Another thing to try is a squirt of ProGold contact treatment/cleaner into the PowerAmp-In jack. With all that switching, not to mention that your entire signal's flowing through a jack, there's a lot of opportunity for dust to ruin your day. I'd try that first, in fact.

Gil...

Re: RE: HD 500 to PWR Amp: Volume?

support@line6.com — Mon, 21 Feb 2011 23:15:45 GMT

That's simply how the Fender Blues Deluxe Reissue was built. Because of the design, if you're using the PowerAmp-In, but not using the signal from the Preamp-Out, then no preamp controls will work. The Preamp-Out and PowerAmp-In are both located after the Master Vol. They also happen to use their own halves of the same TL072 opamp as a driver for the Send, and as an input buffer for the Return. After that, the signal splits to the reverb, so you should still have that Reverb knob working for ya, no matter what. But the amp and HD500 really should make your ears bleed cuz from that input, the POD's hitting the PI and Power Tube section relatively wide open, and with benefit of input impedance matching and a little signal boost from that opamp. If the opamp is malfunctioning, that would cause a problem with the PowerAmp-In that wouldn't be noticed otherwise. If it's wacky, the Preamp-Send may exhibit some problems, too; so that'd be a good thing to test with your POD, just because. The TL072 is a standard 8-pin opamp, and should be easy to swap if it's socketed, but a minor nightmare to be clipped out and replaced by a technician if it's hard-soldered in.

That's it! Except for maybe the footswitch, which seems to be tied to the signal path by the elaborate switching built into the PowerAmp-In jack. Try stomping some of those footswitches. Turn off the amp and unplug your footswitch (or, plug it in if it isn't already), then turn the amp back on and see if anything changes with regard to your inability to overdrive the Blues Deluxe with the HD500.

Oh and be sure the POD's volume pedal isn't causing you grief. Toe Down! The rest is sort of obvious as previously stated in this thread. Use the left or right channel main unbalanced output jack of the HD500 and connect it with a guitar cable to your amp's PowerAmp-In jack. Level Up! Master Up! Select "Line" for the top Line Level/Guitar Amp switch. Prepare to bleed. Arrrggh.

Gil...

Re: RE: HD 500 to PWR Amp: Volume?

support@line6.com — Mon, 21 Feb 2011 18:08:10 GMT

I have a peavey blues amp with a power amp input, no volume control, 40w...my POD is still ear splitting loud..I can't turn the pod past halfway. make sure you have triple checked everything. make sure the line level switch is correct and that you have selected power amp in on the POD...i would try plugging something else into your power amp, something that you know what the volume level is, for exapmle a computer or laptop soundcard output. listen in the headphones on the pod and the headphones on the computer. if what you hear coming out of the pod is at the same level coming out of the computer, then you may be able to figure out where your problem is at

Re: RE: HD 500 to PWR Amp: Volume?

support@line6.com — Mon, 21 Feb 2011 15:46:24 GMT

I guess the whole thing is not the POD's fault but rather the lack of a real master-volume on my amp. Increasing mixer-volume (good thinking!) and maybe adding a compressor model with output turned up can fix this partially. I am still baffled that going into PWR AMP IN on my amp bypasses ALL the controls...

Re: HD 500 to PWR Amp: Volume?

support@line6.com — Fri, 18 Feb 2011 18:58:32 GMT

I've got the same issue but with a fender solid state. Guitar > Pedal board > PWR AMP IN. I had a different pedal board before and I never rolled the master volume beyond 3 or 4 and it was really loud! With POD HD (switched to line) I have to set the master volume up to 85% when playing with the band. Of course I could use the mixer levels to boost the volume, but not shure if this is the proper solution.

RE: HD 500 to PWR Amp: Volume?

support@line6.com — Fri, 18 Feb 2011 17:20:46 GMT

Have you made sure to turn the amp model's volume all the way up. Also, if output is low, turning up the MIXER channel (A and B) volume levels is another setting to make sure to adjust. Panning in the mixer can adjust the volume as well. Centering the pan can give you a boost in volume.

Regards,

Line6Hugo

Re: HD 500 to PWR Amp: Volume?

support@line6.com — Fri, 18 Feb 2011 09:16:07 GMT

Yesterday I could test the setup using a dummy-jack plugged into the guitar-in of my amp. Unfortunately this solution does not work for me: still no control over volume and tone via the amp's panel. Looks like I have to use the POD effects-only.

Re: HD 500 to PWR Amp: Volume?

support@line6.com — Mon, 14 Feb 2011 08:07:25 GMT

In this situation the "buzzes" won't matter because the preamp section of the amp is not in the signal chain. The OP is going directly to the amp's power amp and is not connected to the amp's effects send jack.

I suppose this is true If FX Send is 0% and Fx Return is 100%. I dont know what configured by default in amps where there's no dedicated knobs for FX Send and Return.