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Re: HD500 and DT50 four cable method?

support@line6.com — Mon, 19 Mar 2012 22:02:15 GMT

Roaster, You can choose to use the balanced outputs of your HD to your monitors from your PC while simultaniously outputting guitar to your DT at the same time without crosstalk.

Advice to you:

Download "starter tones" from here: http://line6.com/customtone/browse/podhd500/

Then change the amp to a "Pre" version. This will help you to get some tones right away. Also pay close attention to your effects to the relation of your signal path in your tone models.

I play live weekly and this rig cannot be beat.. It's insane what you can do.. Just keep plugging away.

Chris

Re: HD500 and DT50 four cable method?

support@line6.com — Thu, 17 Nov 2011 02:11:00 GMT

someone correct me if i am wrong but the l6 link handles the fx loopage. no need to concern about that unless you want to add single pedals besides your hd. but at the same time realize that the hd is not true bypass if you decide not to use the modeling.

cheers

Re: HD500 and DT50 four cable method?

support@line6.com — Mon, 14 Nov 2011 23:39:49 GMT

Hey Roaster,

Not exactly sure what your asking with USB question. I use mine as an interface and just go monitors direct out of the pedal, then all the other tracks come through it out of the PC. Whether that would work as in/out in conjuction with your audiophile I'm not sure. I usually get errors with ASIO when trying to run multiple I/O's.

As for setting up your pedal, the best resource I could find was the customtone.com site. I'd check out the top rated patches, then search some specifics (e.g. frampton/clapton/dimebag) to see how some of the experenced guys route their effects. Seeing how they have tweaked everything for DI or for running into various amps gives a great outline on the general way to go about getting some classic tones. There's some great work on the site.

Can't wait to pick up a DT50, but there's other stuff I need in the studio first.... damn.

Cheers,

Josh

Re: HD500 and DT50 four cable method?

support@line6.com — Tue, 04 Oct 2011 18:34:33 GMT

Since there was already a thread about HD500 / DT50 4 cable method, I opted to post here and not start a new thread.

The 4 cable method is used for looping in effects into an amp and using an FX loop block in your HD500. Without the FX loop block, all effects go directly to the amp guitar input with nothing looped into the FX send/return.

When using the Line 6 link, is the 4 cable method still required to loop in effects from the HD500 into the HD500 effects send/return? Or does the Line 6 Link handle that 100 % when using the FX loop block in your HD500?

Thanks!

Re: HD500 and DT50 four cable method?

support@line6.com — Mon, 04 Apr 2011 08:23:28 GMT

Hi Bigden / All

I too have just got the HD500 and the DT50 2x12 arrives next week.

First thing out of the box I hooked it up to my PC where I normally get great tones from my old Boss GT6, but I was in truth a bit underwhelmed with the "out of the box" sounds with the 500 but I know I need to tweak and tweak.

I have tried to read up as much as I can to sort of "Hit the ground running" but I know now it may take some time to dial in some tones. I have tried the HD500 into the poweramp of my Marshall JVM410C, JCM800 pre is sounding pretty good but I need to really spend some time and dont wont to get tied up with getting a tone out of the Marshall when I will probably be using the DT50 most of the time. I play in a busy covers band and need to get this working for me pretty quickly, I have done a lot of deliberating about this purchase and now I have took the plunge I need it to work. I have seen load of videos on youtube etc but I havent reallly yet seen a HD500 and a DT50 in a "Live" Stage environment most of what I have been able to see is (really good) demos in peoples houses, on there PC etc, if anyone has any live footage that would be great

I would be glad to share experiences with you (and anyone else who is interested) and how I get on with my low (Ish) level of HD500 knowledge as I get into it. I did have a vetta 2 head so the line 6 interface, routing etc is not new to me.

Quick Question, should I be able to play and hear the HD500 through my PC JUST via USB or do I also need to connect the left/right outs to my soundcard? (M-AUDIO audiophile delta)

Thanks all

Great forum

Re: HD500 and DT50 four cable method?

support@line6.com — Sun, 03 Apr 2011 03:10:44 GMT

Check out any of the multiple threads in the DT50 Support forum, and you'll find the key to matching the HD500's tone to the DT50's tone. There are so many options with the HD, it's easy to get lost.

Re: HD500 and DT50 four cable method?

support@line6.com — Sat, 02 Apr 2011 23:56:10 GMT

A few days ago I had a buddy of mine over to play some music, but after about a 45M of fooling around with the HD500, I just unplugged it and went straight into the amp. Things went from bad to good in 1/2 a second. I truly believe it my lack skills with setting up the HD500 to get a good tone (although it really should not this hard), so I'll spend a few hours this weekend setting up a good patch for next weeks jam session.

All I'm trying to do dial in a good classic rock sound. If I go direct to amp, no HD500, it's easy. As soon as add the HD500, it sounds just a little off and end up spending the next hour missing with it and not playing. Oh well, guess I'll head back out to the practice room and start working my tone.

Feel free to pass any tips you may have my direction. I really want to like my HD500!

Re: HD500 and DT50 four cable method?

support@line6.com — Sat, 02 Apr 2011 23:05:13 GMT

Hi Crusty. Any idea which 4 HD models are built into the DT50?

Re: HD500 and DT50 four cable method?

support@line6.com — Mon, 28 Mar 2011 15:11:26 GMT

Crusty

Thanks, I think I'm getting it now, the HD "pre"presets you mention are actually the same as the DT50s pre amps?

I have also sent you a PM?

Many thanks

Keith

Re: HD500 and DT50 four cable method?

support@line6.com — Mon, 28 Mar 2011 04:57:32 GMT

The DT50 contains 4 of the 16 HD amp models. So, whenever anyone says that it sounds great on its own, what they're really saying is that it sounds great when using the 4 PRE models selected from the HD500.

So, it comes down to whether you want lots of wires to achieve the same thing as using the L6LINK because you'll be placing your effects pre or post the PRE modelling either way and then going to the poweramp in the DT50.

One advantage would be if you are using just the 4 designated amp models and the 4 cable method would be that you could switch off the PRE modelling in the HD500 which will free up a bit of DSP (not much though because the full models and reverbs are what chews up the DSP). A handy tip is if you want to use reverb, use the reverb in the DT50 rather than burn up DSP on the HD500 reverb.

Cheers,

Crusty