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RE: ON/OFF TOGGLE SWITCH POD HD

support@line6.com — Fri, 04 Nov 2011 16:23:04 GMT

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RE: ON/OFF TOGGLE SWITCH POD HD

support@line6.com — Tue, 01 Nov 2011 16:21:03 GMT

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Re: ON/OFF TOGGLE SWITCH POD HD

support@line6.com — Tue, 01 Nov 2011 15:16:57 GMT

Funny ain't it? All these new "Energy Star" appliances lead us to imagine they'll help us go green, but that doesn't mean they're not still doing their vampire thing.

On the flip side, I figured out late last night that it'll cost me a whopping $7 to $15 bucks PER YEAR to recharge electric bike batteries every day, 365 days a year; depending upon what time of day or night I charge 'em up. So, as power vampires, in a lot of ways we're not exactly being what I would consider very thirsty vampires.

If only LiFePo4 lithium batteries and PV solar cells (still rediculously inefficient @18 to 19%) weren't both so INSANELY and prohibitively expensive.

Gil...

Re: ON/OFF TOGGLE SWITCH POD HD

support@line6.com — Tue, 01 Nov 2011 10:22:46 GMT

Duey schrieb:

Try and defend it any way you want, but this is one of the lamest things I have ever seen. As I look around my house, everything has an on/off switch, coffee maker, lamps, blender, stereo, laptop, TV, DVD player, AC unit, porch light... but not my HD 500.

but do they all have real power off switches? for example, my HD TV, DVD player, bluray player, etc. only go in standbye/sleep mode when i "turn them off" (i'm using a multiple socket outlet with power-switch to completely turn them all off over night).

Re: ON/OFF TOGGLE SWITCH POD HD

support@line6.com — Tue, 01 Nov 2011 08:59:18 GMT

cGil wrote:

Only way to know for sure (shy of an in-line meter) is to open it up and risk the warranty for the sake of curiosity. And I certainly would not recommend doing that!

I can only hope you're right, but I'd still have my doubts about zero current draw. One filter capacitor on the supply side, and it'll still be a vampire due to inherent leakage that all caps naturally exhibit.

Gil...

a good thought Gil, but the others are right... switched mode PSU for sure..

But even if it does draw a little (or a lot of power), the people who are asking for a power switch on their PODs would be doing the same thing anyway... i.e. turning the POD off but leaving the wall wart plugged in. So perhaps we should be educating all those people who leave all their wallwarts turned on (switched mode or not) to be a little greener... I'm green enough as I hate wasting money on electricity when I could be spending it on gear :-)

All told, I was simply showing that with a bit of loose change, and a little time, those who really MUST have a switch near their PODs can make one easily...

In reality I don't use it, but I do have it in my POD case, as occasionally I need a longer extension to reach the wall socket and it serves well as that.

Cheers

Rowbi

Re: ON/OFF TOGGLE SWITCH POD HD

support@line6.com — Mon, 31 Oct 2011 18:41:48 GMT

Definitely switching - hence the fact that it's universal, so there shouldn't really be any current leakage.

I understand the whole idea of vampire current and all, but these little DC adapters draw practically nothing compared to computers and LCD TVs. Seriously, even if you leave the little thing plugged in all the time with nothing attached to it, it's like an extra 1.2 kWH per year. Which at the average electric rate of $0.09 a kWh would be a little more than a dime.

Re: ON/OFF TOGGLE SWITCH POD HD

support@line6.com — Mon, 31 Oct 2011 18:21:52 GMT

Only way to know for sure (shy of an in-line meter) is to open it up and risk the warranty for the sake of curiosity. And I certainly would not recommend doing that!

I can only hope you're right, but I'd still have my doubts about zero current draw. One filter capacitor on the supply side, and it'll still be a vampire due to inherent leakage that all caps naturally exhibit.

Gil...

Re: ON/OFF TOGGLE SWITCH POD HD

support@line6.com — Mon, 31 Oct 2011 18:03:26 GMT

I thought the new DC supply was a switching type? If it is, then it doesn't leech...only tranformer types do that from what I recall...

Re: ON/OFF TOGGLE SWITCH POD HD

support@line6.com — Mon, 31 Oct 2011 17:49:04 GMT

No offense intended, but your DC switch isn't very "green" in that it leave the wall wart sucking power from the grid like the little vampire it is when it's not powering up the HD's. Insignificant blood loss for the power grid? Perhaps, but only from the user's perspective. However, try to keep in mind that every little vampire wall wart on the grid does add up to genuinely significant wasted grid power for absolutely no purpose when they're not actually being used!

I would highly recommend Zap's option instead. The basic cost is similar, but there would be no inexpensive mods required to add to the expense. And no more power sucking when you don't need it!

Gil...

Re: ON/OFF TOGGLE SWITCH POD HD

support@line6.com — Mon, 31 Oct 2011 16:25:37 GMT

TheRealZap wrote:

don't say i never gave you nuttin'
http://www.amazon.com/Belkin-F7C016q-Conserve-Power-Switch/dp/B005MYN3OO/ref=sr_1_78?ie=UTF8&qid=1319811316&sr=8-78

ah, now that starts to make more sense... here in the UK just about all wall sockets have switches already built in. maybe that's why I don't really see this as a problem...

but I did make this little video a while ago for anyone who really must have a switch. it cost around £5 and took 30 minutes to make: http://rowbinet.wordpress.com/2011/05/08/line-6-pod-hd300-hd400-hd500-power-switch-mod/